To not buy 'regulation' school uniform

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Because firstly it is much more expensive (1 school logo polo top for £7.50 when I can get two plain ones for £5).
Secondly the list states "only shirts (l/s or s/s) with ties. NO open neck blouses for girls. Dd2 hates tight things near her neck or feeling restricted thread hated the shirt tie combo even with top button undone so I have got her blouses with an open neck as she will be comfier.

Db was horrified (his daughter is also starting school at the same time) and he said I am wrong to deliberately get the 'wrong' uniform

I hate ties on children, they don't look smart, they look ridiculous. 200 posts on a thread about reception childrens uniform ! The mind boggles. Primary school uniform should be comfortable, practical and cheap in my opinion. Logo stuff is stupidly expensive. All primary schools should just have plain polo shirts, trousers/skirts, jumpers/cardigans in my opinion.

Agree,wait horse .

Have just read the whole thread and cannot believe the rigidity re uniform.
I am a teacher,have 5 kids and live in Dublin.

Live in an affluent area and most kids wear non logo uniform. No one cares,or would even notice . Let alone tease because of!

Shocking.

My daughter has health issues that make her different to the other kids in some ways and I think its even more important, because of those differences to make sure she has and does the same as others wherever possible. I would definitely not deliberately set out to make her stand out as different by dressing her in something that has specifically been ruled out on the uniform list.
However, because there is a satisfactory option on the list I'm not really seeing the point of this thread. If feels more comfortable in a polo shirt buy polo shirts and if she feels the cold as badly as stated nobody will ever notice lack of logo as she'll never take her cardi or jumper off anyway.

My ds is in secondary and he has all the expensive logo'd bits. However they have just introduced a school trouser. There is no marking on the trousers to show they are regulation ones so I have just purchased plain Black trousers as usual. I suspect they are only to stop girls wearing skinny legging like trousers
However if they were logo'd I would buy them regardless.

My ds has never grown out of his sensory issues reg uniform. Year 10 and he still gets distressed at tight necks and ties, he has AS though but the school wont budge on uniform. He just ties the tie as loose as he can and undoes the top button underneath it and arranges it so it doesnt show. The new ties however are clip ons so hes hanging on his old ties like death!

shoes are another, he has to have proper shoes and wont entertain wearing them, i have tried believe me. So I have bought black plain lonsdale trainers but they look like a shoe with laces. Fingers crossed he gets away with it.

They get detention at secondary here also for not wearing proper uniform

As you have an option of polo shirts, and they've specifically said "no open shirts" it will look deliberately rebellious to do that though.
It labels you out as being obstructive to the school, which if you then want them on your side for something else they may be less inclined to take you seriously.

For me, dd2 can't do up top buttons easily (only one hand), and when she started I wasn't sure she would manage the tie. I could have made a fuss and got her OT to write a letter-I'm sure they would have. But what I did was put a circle of velcro instead of the top button, and within two weeks she could tie the tie herself anyway.
To my mind it gives me a much better negotiating position when there's something she really can't handle if they have seen I have adapted when there is an easy adapt.

What they would have done at my school was give her a tie out of lost property at the start of each morning she didn't have one on.

And all of mine, even dd1 who is perpetually cold, prefer short sleeve shirts all year round.

What DeWee said. Why be one of those parents at this stage when you'll need the school's support for important issues relating to your daughter's well being?

Your all talking as if she's going to be walking around with a huge arrow above her head pointing her out.

No one's going to notice no logo when it's hidden by the jumper anyway and if the shirts are able to be sourced anywhere as there's no logo on the shirts then there are going to be a variety of cuts and styles and sizes given others buy big to avoid tight necks.

I think some of you are being very ott over something that likely will barely be noticed.

I will also have no problem being "that parent" should dd end up in a secondary school with stupid jumper/blazer at all ti es rules because they are nothing more than a school on a power trip and serve no purpose and I'm not having dd coming home bleeding because she over heated and scratched herself stupid.

It's primary school there will be kids in nappies, kids crying as home sick, kids in generic uniforms as they got call that day saying they had a place, kids who speak all kinds of languages, probably a plaster cast on an arm/leg or two and you think one shirt is going to get noticed??

Presumably Giles you will bear the school's uniform policy in mind when choosing a secondary school?

uniform is such a non issue. think about it logically, if your child wants to be a policeman, a nurse, a surgeon, a fireman, they have to have a uniform. school uniform is no different. why do people make it such a contentious topic? i like to see children looking smart in their schools uniform. it encourages a sense of belonging, too. my kids love wearing it.

have to agree ties on reception kids is a bit ott tho!

What's this choosing?

Shit school or PITA uniform. Those will be my choices

Long sleeve polo shirts are a much better idea than an open necked blouse. You might find she is too warm indoors with long sleeves and a cardi.

Nobody will care about the logo.

If I'm really lucky ill get the shit school and a pita uniform.

I would just assume parents wouldn't put down schools as active secondary school choices whose uniform policies they can't support

Well, unfortunately, secondary schools have uniform policies which you are asked to agree to when you send your children there. Some issue detentions for repeated failure to meet the requirements. A genuine reason, communicated to the school, will usually be accepted. I don't agree with uniforms is not a genuine reason.

I started off thinking YWNBU, then saw what you had done and thought "Ok, a bit U", then saw the rest about your DD and am back to thinking YANBU. Especially as you have managed to get around it by finding long-sleeved polo shirts, so problem solved.

I cannot fathom why anyone thinks it's a good idea to put tiny children into ties?!

DS1 is in Y1 and although he does have 2 logo'd polo shirts, he also has 2 non-logo'd but correct colour shirts. He has the school sport shirt too, but I won't pay the daft prices for their shorts/trousers, I buy them elsewhere (but since they're black, it's not really an issue!). He has 2 plain red sweatshirts as well; he did have a logo'd one but someone swiped it :(.
The probably biggest thing I have bought him that is "out of step" are his coats - there is a "school coat" - but it's a lightweight tracksuit style jacket and I wanted a thicker one. We're in Australia, it doesn't get that cold in winter, so huge duffels aren't really needed but it can still get down into single figures, so I didn't think much of their school jacket as Ds1 can get very cold! He has a sleeveless quilted gilet in school colours, and a thick showerproof jacket with fleece interior in school colours, both with hoods.

No one has complained about any of his clothes so far.

An official school coat?! Ridiculous.

I can support most parts of a policy other than one which did not allow my dd to remove a layer of clothing to stop her getting too hot and causing huge eczema flare ups leaving her hot itchy and bleeding.

Excellent - then do what the student I mention does. Parents contacted school arrangement was made. There are two students who have permission to bend the rules as this enables them to come to school comfortably. This was mentioned in a staff briefing, and the students in question have a note in their homework diary from their form tutor (in case any stupid teacher has forgotten they have permission). Thus, they avoid trouble. I'm also a fan of a note to the teacher for accidental uniform 'errors', such as broken shoes in the last week of term, or at the school the regular 'I left my uniform at the pavillon after games and I can't get it until break when there's someone there'.
Communication is key.

Does the top button of the polo shirt have to be done up?

If not, what's the difference between that & an open necked blouse?

If she feels the cold, would vest, polo shirt & cardi/jumper be enough or are two long sleeve layers needed?

polo short, jumper plus cardi/fleece?

too much?

I think that you may have panicked unnecessarily & not thought alternatives through.

Don;t worry too much about her getting cold in a short sleeved polo shirt until you've seen how she is. DS's school has underfloor heating and its baking hot pretty much all year round.

But what's the difference between that and what the op is doing?

The logo is pointless worrying about as others will do the same and she's just trying to make her dd who has enough to deal with a little bit more comfortable.

You know what OP? where I work, we're not allowed to wear jeans. We have to wear smart trousers if we wear trousers at all. However I find these uncomfortable - should I just wear jeans because they are more comfortable for me?

Presumably you have a choice as to where you can buy your trousers? When your stuck with just one choice no matter how badly it fits, how awful the material is or forced to have trousers
Which are too tight in certain places and pay more for the privilege then perhaps you can compare