To think that there's really no need for all the flirting/romance/sexual tension in Doctor Who

[fishdishwish]

I thought we might have a respite from it with Capaldi's arrival, but it now seems his companion must have a younger man to flirt/cheekily banter with.

It's supposed to be about monsters for god's sake, not soapy flirtation.!!

[BestIsWest]

I will always be terrified of Daleks.

[AnyoneForTARDIS]

oh they've overdone the Daleks and cybermen too. leave them for a while -dalek episode this Saturday already!

[BestIsWest]

I think we're getting both this series.

[AskBasil]

AFAIC you can never have too many daleks.

Bring 'em on.

[littlebillie]

I used to love it too many other semi permanent characters and now Blue Peter is in set design... Boring. I thought he would be great too

[FolknNorah]

I liked Donna and I love River, I hope we see that if we have any romance. I want her back either way tbh
I liked the Ponds too, that was cool. I'd quite like to see the dr with a male companion I even liked James corden.
My only issue with the first episode really was why is it ok for two women to be in a relationship and not two men? Not that I care IySWIM?
Am watching dr who extra and have noticed that the Dr is wearing a ring. Has he always worn it or is it PC's wedding ring that he didn't take off for the hot shoot?

[FolknNorah]

Hot shoot = photo shoot obviously

[SolidGoldBrass]

FolknNorah - have you forgotten Captain Jack?

My DS has loads (nearly all the NEw WHo) on DVD and we watch them a lot. Even I sometimes think that some of the 'sexual tension' is a bit much (and I am an erotic writer FFS) when I'm watching it with DS.

Mind you, today we have been watching Boom Town (Ecclestone era, the one with the Rift in Cardiff) and I found myself feeling sorry for Micky and thinking that the character was well-drawn.

[DrMalcolmTuckerWhosMistress]

Norah!

The ring he wears was one he had specially made to go over his wedding ring because he doesn't like to take it off. However,mits going to be referenced to at some point. He is married to river, but whether or not this is the reason for him wearing it we will just have to wait and see!

[YeGodsAndLittleFishes]

OP yanbu it is killing it as family viewing as we all just squirm and pretend not to notice all the really bad bits. There is truly enough in real life (other people's lives) and soaps. It is not a children's programme any more, sadly, and is making us uncomfortable now for thinking it ever was good family viewing.

[JoffreyBaratheon]

I think as a one-off, during the Billie Piper/David Tennant time, it was fine and added to the story - the whole 'Bad Wolf' over-arcing plot only made sense if they did lerve eachother.

The mistake the writers/producers made, was in continuing with the love crap after Billie left. Martha's unrequited love for the Dr was boring and the whole character of Martha took DW to a new low. Nothing wrong with the actor - just the scripts.

Then River Song and the Dr's wife... no, just no. Matt Smith was brilliant - the writing... awful, flat and schmaltzy.

If they'd dropped the love nonsense after Billie and got back to the roots of DW at that point, would have been no harm done.

I love Peter Capaldi and I love Clara - she is my favourite companion since Rose. Could do without the romance even as a sub plot with lesser characters.

My son is a Whovian, or was, but loathed Saturday's episode and especially loathes the intergalactic lesbians and played a drinking game with the sexual innuendos but luckily wasn't doing shots.

[theskewbald]

intergalactic lesbians and 'we are married you know' about a gazillion times was dull, and when they also bunged in scottish independence we were taking bets on what next, bedroom tax, nhs reform or maybe even house prices. Would prefer it to be just bonkers daleks and stuff.
Loved Ten and Matt Smith not sure about Capaldi yet.

[theskewbald]

actually council tax on the tardis would be a right beggar to sort out wouldn't it?

[BertieBotts]

Oh I definitely lust after Matt Smith. DH met him, I was

I agree it's far overdone now. Rose, yes. River, ehh, possibly. I was really rooting for river/doctor but then it got a bit weird. None of the others fit, although TBH I can see the thing - if a young handsome clever man whisked you off throughout time and space - taking the time to focus totally on you and show you particular things and make you feel special while you're pretty young and impressionable yourself you probably would feel quite addicted and excited about that and probably would feel like you loved him. And being an alien you could see him being totally oblivious to this every time as well. The doctor is unique, special, charismatic and fantastic and if he showed up for real in your life when you're 19 years old you probably would fall in love with him, or at least the idea of him.

[Weirdbeard]

BBC to producer: "Hi, we just wanted to check how you were doing with the Inclusivity Checklist for series 8?"
Producer: "Umm...well, we're working on it?"
BBC: "Let's see - any post-op transexuals in it yet?"
Producer: "Er...no. Maybe later"
BBC: "Riiiight. What about a disabled character?"
Producer: "Hmm. Do Daleks count?"
BBC: "Disabled bad guys are too stereotypical. And you already decided they could levitate. So, no".
Producer: "Well, I'm sure we can work on it".
BBC: "You need something" searches list "Aha! How about a lesbian kiss?"
Producer: "Maybe....can it involve a lizard?"
BBC: "Absolutely. Good work!"

OK, maybe slightly tongue-in-cheek. I am absolutely for inclusivity. Just not at the expense of quality, eh?

[SolidGoldBrass]

Aww, I like the Lesbo Lizards. DS appears to be totally unfazed by them. (Mind you, slightly OT, but I remember my friends, who are lesbians, asking me if DS knew/minded that they were a couple. I said that as neither of them was a steam train, it wouldn't be of any particular import to him.)

[DrMalcolmTuckerWhosMistress]

I don't even understand why it should be an issue to be honest. People need to get out more if they're going to fuss over lesbian kisses! No different to heterosexual kisses really. Not in this day and age!

[DrMalcolmTuckerWhosMistress]

And they weren't even KISSING! They were sharing oxygen.

Oh, I'll tell DH that's what I'm doing if he ever walks in on me and PC.

[BubbleButt14]

It's Doctor Who.

It's fine - a bit annoyed that the best Doctor to date just left (Tennant was woeful, far too hammy and over-acted), but Capaldi has made a decent start, very enjoyable first show!

As for the OP - YABU, very much so.

[AnyoneForTARDIS]

awww how utterly SWEET that Capaldi wont take off his wedding ring in aany role. now THATS love!

[ArsenicyOldFace]

It's the messing with history of gay rights DrMalcolm not the kissing. I was assuaged but now I am stressing over who married them as per pp.

[RustyBear]

www.theguardian.com/media/2014/aug/28/doctor-who-lesbian-lizard-kiss-peter-capaldi#start-of-comments

Apparently six people agreed with the OP strongly enough to complain....

[ArsenicyOldFace]

About the kiss? Oh FGS.

[Pixel]

awww how utterly SWEET that Capaldi wont take off his wedding ring in aany role. now THATS love!
Either that or his knuckles have swollen up and he can't take it off arthritis does that .

[Idontseeanysontarans]

You know I've just remembered something..
My parents have all the old DW novels, going right back to the beginning and in Doctor Who and the Crusaders Ian and Barbara kiss after he rescues her!
I think as far as the later novels go they actually married.