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Next door neighbour dispute - I am on the verge of going nuclear!

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OlderMummy1 · 19/08/2014 21:30

Bit of backstory...

We live on a small road off another road. On our small road are 4 semi detached houses. We live furthest from the road in House 1. We also own House 2 which we rent out to almost cover the mortgage. It was my house before I married my DH, is very small and is almost out of negative equity. House 3 has the neighbours from hell and in House 4 lives a quiet, elderly single chap. His house is nearest the road.

About 5 years ago a same sex couple (women) rented our house. We were always pleasant with them, they were civil but seemed quite grumpy. We put it down to them maybe having faced some prejudice in the past and just maintained a casual 'hello' type relationship with them. They seemed to resent paying us rent and often slipped comments into conversations such as 'well, with all the money we pay you I'm sure you can afford it' etc.

2 years ago the man who lived in House 3 died and the same sex couple (now known as the neighbours from hell NFH) bought it. They then seemed to become really grumpy and never passed a civil word with us. That suited us as we are very quiet and like to keep ourselves to ourselves. They then applied for planning permission for an extension. We had to object as it was so close to our properties that it makes them look like terraced houses and our houses have now dropped in price due to the extension going ahead. I think this was the catalyst to them hating us.

They then approached us about having the House 2 and 3 joined drives tarmaced. We were expecting our 1st child then after a long hard infertility road and were broke. They asked us to contribute £1000 to the drive and, after some humming and ahhhing, we agreed as we had just enough savings. They then came back 2 weeks later and said it would cost us nearer £3000. We said we couldn't afford it. NFH then said they would pay the bulk of it and we could still pay the £1000 which we eventually did.

Since then relationships have deteriorated. They scowl at us all the time and say horrible things to us to other neighbours and any workmen we employ. We have since had baby number 2 and are quite cramped in the house. My husband needed a study so we had a small outside wooden office built. The NFH objected to this on the grounds that we have too many deliveries and they are sick of delivery vans coming down our small road.

Last week they stuck a huge sign on their car back window saying 'slow down!' It was obviously aimed at us and my husband went round. He is a very laid back, reasonable man. They called him an idiot and said they were sick of delivery men driving over their rockery at the end of the drive. They said I should go to the shops instead - easier said than done with 2 children under 2 and still suffering the after effects of spd. My baby needs special milk which also needs to be delivered. They both ranted and shouted at him for about 10 minutes, saying he drives too fast up our small road (which to be fair I have told him off about before). He told them that the parcel situation wouldn't be changing but he would go slower on the road in future.

The final straw was today. I was in the garden with the babies when one of the NFH opened our side gate and yelled something at me. I didn't catch what it was so I went out. She showed me her rockery all scattered all over the drive and told me that one of the delivery drivers did it. I apologised but said that there was nothing I could do about it. She ranted on for a bit and I offered to take a photo and complain to Amazon which I have done.

I am at the end of my tether with them. I am sleep deprived and feel that if they speak to them again I am going to explode and tell them to just fuck off. My husband said to just leave it to him. I want to move but we can't afford it at the moment. Should we offer to pay for their rockery damage? Are we being unreasonable having a delivery probably every other day?

I just feel I need an outsiders view on this.

OP posts:
HeySoulSister · 19/08/2014 22:07

Well yes, they've done nothing wrong yet their property is being damaged....

TheCraicDealer · 19/08/2014 22:09

Tell them to bugger off re. the deliveries. You're allowed to do your shopping however you want, whether that's by doing it yourself or ordering it online. Between that and your DH's driving, sounds like the only way they'd be happy would be if you never left the house and had all your groceries delivered via Red Cross aid drop.

Some people are just nasty bits of work. You could be sympathetic and talk about all the prejudice they might have faced, etc, but there's plenty of people in the same boat who managed to get along with others just fine. Those comments when they were renting were out of order. Wonder if they're cultivating all those chips on their shoulders to add to their depleted rockery? Who even has a rockery any more?!

Next time they moan give them the phone number for Amazon customer services and tell them to sort it themselves.

ThatBloodyWoman · 19/08/2014 22:09

But its not the ops fault that delivery drivers are damaging their rockery.

DonkeysDontRideBicycles · 19/08/2014 22:11

Don't pay for randoms driving over their rockery!
Yes it's unsafe when people who speed in built up areas. I don't blame them for taking exception to DH racing. But your arrangements for deliveries are none of their business.

If they have nothing better to do than find fault and be objectionable it is quite tempting to let rip and tell them where to go but you live in such close proximity to these women all year round so I don't think you should. After all if you move you're going to have to be honest about any neighbourly disputes.

Wonder if your local Council runs a conciliation/mediation service for promoting good neighbour relations?

WooWooOwl · 19/08/2014 22:16

A possible solution could be that they move their rockery, because if it's being damaged by more than one careless delivery driver then the likelihood is that it's not in a very sensible place.

Or maybe they could stick a flag in it to make it clearer to drivers of big vehicles.

Either way, the OP is perfectly entitled to have as many deliveries as she wants to her own address, and the rockery is not her problem.

iK8 · 19/08/2014 22:17

I don't think they sound that bad. Certainly there is provocation but I'm not sure if you should hear the brunt it. Going round there to remonstrate on the back of a sign thT may or may not be to do with you is just bonkers - leave them alone!

I think you could do more about the delivery. You could complain to the company you order from for a start.

But really? I think you should all grid the fuck up and leave each other be.

wheresthelight · 19/08/2014 22:21

the delivery driver thing is a pain, but all you can do is email the companies involved and explain that their drivers are causing issues. but to be honest unless they are filming every car that comes anywhere near their house it sounds like a convenient excuse to me. Are you sure that it isn't one of them doing the damage?

It sounds like there is an underlying issue from them renting the house from you. Were there issues at all?

I would perhaps try and broker a peace deal whereby you all sit down around a table and try and sort out where this animosity comes from and how you all go about resolving it.

Good luck

OverTheHandlebars · 19/08/2014 22:23

They sound like a bit of a nightmare but I'm not sure what them being a same sex couple has to do anything. If you'd randomly pointed out that it was an Asian couple or whatever you would have been flamed.

Aside from that, it's hardly your fault the delivery drivers go too fast, although I'm sure your DH didn't help the situation. There really is no excuse for taking corners too quickly.

BoulevardOfBrokenSleep · 19/08/2014 22:25

I think they have a long way to go before being neighbours from hell TBH.

If one of my neighbours stuck a sign saying 'Slow down' in their car window, there's no way I'd ever think it was aimed at me (also I'd be unlikely to notice it, I have no idea if my NDNs have any bumper stickers etc). It does sound, to put it as politely as I can, like your DH drives a bit recklessly. And has ignored you asking him to stop it in the past?

ThatBloodyWoman · 19/08/2014 22:25

When they applied for permission for their extension, did you object that it'd cause extra traffic, deliveries, uproar etc?

gordyslovesheep · 19/08/2014 22:26

I don't understand why he went round because they put a sign in heir back window

I think things are obviously getting to you OP but I am not sure there are any major issues - stop engaging with them past a 'hello' and ask delivery drivers to be more careful

coraltoes · 19/08/2014 22:27

Put their rockery in their wheelie bins. God they'd hate living in London...Such a hoo ha over some shitty rocks. Ffs

VanitasVanitatum · 19/08/2014 22:31

U don't have to do anything, but u could leave a note when u order a delivery, in the delivery instructions section, to please drive slowly into the road and watch out for the rockery at number whatever..

fluffyduffydoo · 19/08/2014 22:37

ok if the rockery is at the bottom of their drive are delivery drivers driving down their drive then across No2 front garden to deliver parcels?

That sounds weird and not believable

Honestly I think this can be solved with a bit common sense

I'd start by asking them over for dinner/or for a coffee or something

You were happy enough to take their money when they rented your second property of off you, so make the effort now they are on they same footing as you and property owners in the street you live on

OlderMummy1 · 19/08/2014 22:40

My DH went round after seeing the sign as it was obvious from its placement that it was aimed at us....and it was! They said it was! He went round and approached it nicely, they were the ones that shouted , he tried to smooth the waters and apologised for going a bit quick. What more can we do?

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musicalendorphins2 · 19/08/2014 22:41

If I were your neighbours I would buy a large boulder from a landscaping company and have it placed where the rockery is, or put a fence up.
www.knockonwoodindustries.com/Corner_Fence.jpg

fluffyduffydoo · 19/08/2014 22:42

drive slower

Janethegirl · 19/08/2014 22:42

I'd ignore them completely.

OlderMummy1 · 19/08/2014 22:45

To be honest I wish they would put a big boulder there and solve the problem once and for all. The problem is that it's quite a narrow road and quite hard to manoeuvre if you're not familiar with it. Their rockery placement leaves not a tiny margin for error so larger vans /dusky conditions etc. Is a recipe for disaster. I'm sure it must damage tyres if the rocks are driven over.

OP posts:
TheCraicDealer · 19/08/2014 22:46

Get a sign with 'PRIVATE ROAD - please drive carefully" made up at Timpsons and rest safe in the knowledge you've been v reasonable.

ThatBloodyWoman · 19/08/2014 22:51

I think it sounds like sheer childish digging at you because you objected to their planning permission.
I think they will continue to object to anything they possibly can in retaliation.

fluffyduffydoo · 19/08/2014 22:54

do you not have pavements in your street

MrsFlorrick · 19/08/2014 22:58

OP. Who owns they private road you all live on? Or is it jointly owned?

Objecting to planning applications are a common way for people to really fall out. You will never be friends again after something like that.

The rockery is Amazons delivery drives issue. Not yours.
Unless the neighbours own the private road and you only have a right of way given good and neighbourly conduct?

I would avoid engaging with them and look forward to being able to move away from there.

I feel for you. It's horrible when things with neighbours go awry.

KnittedJimmyChoos · 19/08/2014 23:00

why the hell did they buy the house?

not really relevant but I cannot stand rockeries.

For a narrow road it does seem really silly to have a rockery where lots of drivers are hitting it.

They seemed grumpy with you from the start, why oh why did they buy.

Maybe you should go nuclear...maybe it will shut them up?

fluffyduffydoo · 19/08/2014 23:07

they probably bought their house for the same reason every how how buys a House does

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