to be against my OH growing cannabis for personal use?

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My partner wants to set up a growing tent with one plant in our loft for personal use. He says it will be safer than him having to buy weed from strangers.
I'm worried as we rent our house and potentially the landlord might come or a workman or someone. OH assures me he wouldn't put me and the kids at risk and that he'd lock the plant away.
I feel pushed into a corner. He says he will continue to smoke it until his dying days (he's 36), and that he'd be much less likely to get caught than if the police pulled his car over on the street. He only buys small quantities.
We live in France where drug laws are apparently tighter. It's a lose lose situation for me, as he thinks I'm worrying unnecessarily. I just don't want this going on in our home, but he's told me he'll continue to buy off the street and spend our money on it if I don't agree. Help!

I have an acquaintance who's partner is a heavy cannabis smoker. They have a plant in their semi detached house and it's stinking. You can smell it as soon as you open the front door. I'm surprised the postman hasn't shopped them. She could lose her house if they are caught growing it.
If you are in a flat then it's only a matter of time before you are caught.

I'd tell him where to go.

Cannabis killed two of your friends? That's unheard off.

Depends on your set up. Old school hot lights etc will stink but there are other ways now and with decent filters etc the smell is practically non existent. Not that I'd want it in my house.

It's not. Goggle it. The two people I know never entered the paper etc. one fell down the stairs whilst high on it and another (young) had a heart attack.

The point here is that what he wants to do is illegal. It doesn't matter if he or anybody else thinks the law is ridiculous or that another legal activity is just as harmful. That's not going to impress the police or a court of law. If you substitute growing cannabis for tax evasion, benefit fraud, shop lifting, pirating DVDs etc or any other crimes that people often percieve as victimless the OP would still be in the same situation. Living with someone who potentially will get them evicted if he gets caught. The OP doesn't say whose income is supporting the family, because if he is contributing and gets caught breaking the law then he could also lose his job.

It's the legality I have issue with. It's, as drugs go, pretty safe. No deaths linked to cannabis, despite what your friends brothers cousins aunty said, and its not addictive in a physical sense. Because of its legal status people are looking at legal alternatives so they don't take the risk of committing a crime, dealing with dealers ect. The legal alternatives are killing people. That's worrying.

It's not harmless, but it's less harmful than alcohol and the legal alternatives people are sourcing. The government have sleepwalked into this crazy situation where people can now go into their local corner shop and buy something cheaper and stronger and much more dangerous than the illegal drugs the government have been waging a war on.

Anyway. That's by the by. The ops husband smokes, that's not up for discussion. Whether he should get involved in the growing is another matter. One thing to consider is its actually quite hard to grow well and the kit can cost a lot.

Nobody will notice...

Unless

(apologies for Daily Fail links)

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2461412/Police-helicopter-s-thermal-imaging-camera-detected-home-cannabis-factory-heat-coming-lamps-grow-drugs-look-like-flat-GLOWING.html

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2120626/House-hiding-cannabis-factory-captured-helicopter-police-thermal-imaging-camera.html

I assume you are prepared for a possible police raid and losing your home when the hotspot in your loft is detected. Will your OH be paying your increased electricity bills too.

chubby
Is it really less harmful than alcohol? Mind you I know someone whose life was ruined by cannabis induced pyschosis so it seems worse to me.

Is there any research?

It's, as drugs go, pretty safe

Not really.

Skunk is ridiculously strong and recent (Swedish?) studies showed links to psychosis.

If you mix with tobacco you risk lung disease.

You're breaking the law.

It also turns you into a catatonic prat. (Not a medically recognised state but deeply irritating for anyone expecting you to function as a member of a family).

What is your OH afraid of, OP, that he needs to sedate himself daily?

yanbu. I love cannabis but growing it in a rented property is stupid and you dont want him to and thats completely reasonable.

plus it wouldnt be one plant

My parents grew a few weed plants in the attic when we were kids. They are frightening middle class with professional jobs and never smoked it in front of us. I don't think the police are going to care about a few plants, even in France.

Absolutely, without a doubt, safer than alcohol. Note I said 'as drugs go's.

Costs the country a hell of a lot less than alcohol too.

I'm sorry, OP, but your OH sounds like a bit of a dick.

Plant in the loft? Any passing police helicopter with infrared may take note of the hotspot. One plant? If he gets through more than an eighth a week, he's going to need more than one plant, probably on rotation so he's cropping frequently. Initial setup will cost a few hundred quid (does he have that spare?), electricity bill will spike, there's a danger of the electrics catching fire if he doesn't know what he's doing, and it will stink. Also, plants need daily attention - if he's growing, he's never going to be able to go away on holiday, or even just go elsewhere for the weekend. He'll be tied to the house. Is that what he wants?

Your priority when you have kids, as I'm sure you know, OP, is keeping a safe and secure roof over their heads. How exactly does your OH plan to provide this from a prison cell? He is no use whatsoever to his children if he gets caught. He can't guarantee he won't be caught. He says he wouldn't put you or the kids at risk, but the simple fact of the plant's existence in your house is what puts you at risk; he cannot protect you from that except by not growing in the house. Paint him a picture of how your lives would look, with him in prison and you and the kids evicted, and he probably won't like it.

It's this line that worries me though: he's told me he'll continue to buy off the street and spend our money on it if I don't agree. The two of you disagree on how to spend family money, and he utterly overrules you. Who the fuck does he think he is, to lay down the law like that? It's your home just as much as his. You decide together what goes on in it. If you don't want the risk, then he needs to accept that. Or else he can fuck off and get his own flat to grow in.

chubby, you sound like every sad, habitual cannabis user I have ever had the misfortune to come across

friend of a friend grew cannabis for personal consumption (I think he shared it with mates but he never sold it). His consumption was so high and the amount he was growing so much that he got done for intent to supply (I think) and went to prison for 2 years.

Just sayin'.

I would also want to investigate the law in France around this, as you might also be implicated if you live in a house where you know cannabis is being grown.

Absolutely, without a doubt, safer than alcohol

Also possibly safer than standing on a motorway.

Not quite as safe as growing up and taking emotional responsibility rather than needing to get off your tits on a daily basis.

In my, like, totally square mainstream opinion.

Oh yes cannabis is really safe.

apart from the link to mental health problems including schizophrenia, the link to lung cancer, the link to make fertility and the fact it's a fucking gateway drug as well and increases your risk of generating a criminal record

oh and I hate alcohol and smoking in general too

Oh god, the cannabis defenders. He would be out if he was my DP OP. Two of DP's mates are heavy cannabis users and I don't allow it near my house or kids so him actually wanting to grow it in my house and the "i'll smoke it till my dying days" would spell the end.

On the off chance that a genuine person needs to genuinely ask this question: YANBU.

Men like this don't change btw, I've known a few. They think they are free spirits, rather than silly little boys who can't cope with life without something to take the edge off. They also like the 'danger' element as it gives their dull lives a little thrill. And if your OH is caught you can look forward to social services taking an interest in your fitness to parent. It will also cause damage to the LL's house, which makes your OH a bit of a cunt in another way. My friend just had to spend a fortune on repairs because some bright spark decided to grow cannabis in the attic of her rented house. The condensation caused incredible damage.

As a past smoker I've nothing to say on the moral/ethical/health side of the subject as there are pros&cons with cannabis as with many other "drugs" (ie booze, cigs, junk food!) BUT the bottom line as far as I would be concerned, and as pp have said, is that it's ILLEGAL! And with that in mind, it's reeally hard to hide it when growing.... Aside from what others have posted along the lines of helicopters and police 'sensing' hot lamps, etc (sounds a bit miami vice to me but you never know!), it absolutely stinks to high heaven!! So unless you live a hermit-like existence in an isolated farm house (& OWN not rent) it is simply not worth the risk.... Especially with a young family involved! Put your foot down!

For pities sake.Alcohol is harmful.So is skunk.
But brewing your own beer (which will give you bellyache....) is legal and growing your own isn't.
This action will implicate the op.The fact is that she does know and that will come over if she's questioned.
Who knows, since he's going to smoke till his dying day, perhaps a prison sentence might not be I his grand plan either -perhaps he'll just let her take the rap if there's a raid.

I don't much care whether you smoke a bit of puff chubby so long as it doesn't impact on anyone else.But the fact is that hospitals are seeing more and more (particularly male) youths being admitted with psychosis because of skunk use.

Cannabis resin may well be beneficial medicinally.

Skunk is a different animal altogether.....

Ewww gross. Ya so nbu.

With kids in the house too? Niiice.