to think the BBC should show less programms of people making cakes, sweets and deserts

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Just looking at the iplayer and 4 of the top 20 programs are just about making junk food.

With 70% of adults over weight I don't think the state broadcaster needs to encourage more people to eat junk.

I think the tax payers money should go towards making guilt free treats or meals with lots of beg.

Exactly Alis

I'd say it was someone looking for a bun fight... but that would be junk food too.

An organic fat free sugar free muffin fight perhaps?

Move along... It's a first time poster....

Just in case you are a journalist looking for easy copy, OP, it's "fewer programmes" not "less programms". I'm not usually a grammar/spelling pedant but if that's your line of work, it may be important to get it right.

I'll take you all on in a quinoa-fight!

I loved Mary Berry's disgusted look, the baker nearly took a step backwards! I need to perfect that look myself.

It's just a guess but given the OP uses the term "guilt free treats" I would imagine a certain amount of projection is going on with the idea that people can't control their eating.

And no home-baking is not junk food.
If you are concerned about junk then you should be looking to the food industry about things like corn syrup and transfats and advertising that is designed to mislead, and do something about that.

I thought it was common knowledge that despite the squillions of boring cookery programmes on tv people are cooking less, not more.

Like watching decluttering programmes instead of tidying up your own hovel.

Also 'guilt free treats' bluegh.
That is like 'oooooh shall I be naughty?!' squealed by a normally intelligent, educated, professor of economics who has raised 3 children on her own and runs a business in her spare time, when presented with a fucking eclair.

Yep, I want to see a company show a male squealing over a chocolate eclair, in a business suit in an office, clapping his hands together squealing "Shall I be naughty?" Then we'll talk about how woman are portrayed in advertising....

YY Devere my in-laws (including DH unfortunately but I am training him out of it esp round the children) all have this disordered "sweet treats" "oooh I shouldn't oh go on then" bollocks diet-talk thing going on and they are all well fat.

I think it is telling that the OP used that phrase.

Is this the only thing you have to worry about OP, fking lucky then, twunt

Heh alice too right.

wasabi How to Eat is wonderful - I weaned my son on it, in fact. That and Leith's are the most battered books with the most stuck together pages of the several dozen I've collected over the years

How exactly is suggesting the BBC should show less junk food advocating a nanny state?

It was this sentence that did that OP,

With 70% of adults over weight I don't think the state broadcaster needs to encourage more people to eat junk.

Food programmes like GBBO are just one sort if programme. The vast vast majority of programmes feature very slim and attractive people.

Is this not encouraging us to be slim and attractive and young?

No?

Well then it might all just be a tad more complex than you're suggesting...!

Fat and calories are nutrition, Op

I get an irrational rage when people say things like 'oh, I shouldn't' or, the one that actually makes me want to spontaneously combust 'ooh, the diet can start tomorrow'. That one is said regularly by my size 6, very slim, very active, very fit, SIL.

Do you know what? If someone offers you a piece of cake and you don't want it, why not just say 'no thanks?'. It's what I do, and it works just fine.

Why are we all meant to be such martyrs? Why is it compulsory to make a drama out of really wanting to eat it and then expect to be congratulated for turning it down?

hehe.. This country is obsessed with cooking, baking and such. Lifestyle and leisure category consists of 90% of food-related shows.

Elsewhere it's about 50% of beauty/fitness topics, then quite a few DIY programmes and maybe maximum of 2-3 food shows..

Don't people get bored of this??

I think that having absolutely no treat food is really difficult to sustain. I mean, unless you find an apple is an indulgent, comforting treat.

We used to be a family who bought a fair few cakes and biscuits. Since GBBO, I'm now baking a great deal of what we consume. Not 100%, but it's become more of a 'thing'. The shop-cake has long stopped being special, so we bother with that a lot less. We've gone from having shop bough cake regularly to having home-made cake rarely.

So arguably, being shown how to bake these things has actually helped us get a better diet.

(I also make a lot more pies-from-scraps and sometimes my own bread, so some good economising there too.)

So I'm all for it.

People can't control themselves generally.

Speak for yourself love, I manage just fine.

I'm stunned (well, that's a slight exaggeration, more 'laughing at you') that you think watching a programme about making homemade cakes etc makes you fat. It doesn't actually make me rush out the next day for ingredients, make 49 cakes and sit and eat them all. Nor do I run round a track after I've watched the athletics. Perhaps I should after eating all those cakes I didn't make though...

Even if you lick the tv when GBBO is on, I'm sure you'll only comsume some dust and I don't think there are many calories in that.

Bread week next week so can I assume that is ok with you after all a home made loaf is far healthier than white sliced with all the crap additives not to mention the decent work out you get kneading it.

People who do more home baking also tend to do more cooking from scratch in general rather than relying on junk food, they also tend to pass those skills on to children so encouraging the next generation to eat better. More home baking is needed not less.

I've just been looking at pictures of the GBBO contestants. Most of them are very slim and far fewer overweight people than the national average (although who cares really). This seems to suggest that even compulsively making cakes doesn't actually make you fat.

I love cake making programs with a passion and am overweight, but not because I eat cake or desserts. I am a good cook and make great cakes, but only rarely because I am the only one around in the day and I would have to eat the lot. I have the discipline not to make and eat everything I see on the telly.

I've just been looking at pictures of the GBBO contestants. Most of them are very slim and far fewer overweight people than the national average (although who cares really). This seems to suggest that even compulsively making cakes doesn't actually make you fat.

I see some flaws in that logic!

Seems logical to me. Point out the flaws and we will have a little debate.

May have to be after my lunch out though - roast beef, roast potatoes, yorkshire pudding and cauliflower cheese. Possible even a pudding. Can't wait.

Mumsnet is going to make me fat.

FB pies, pulled pork, homemade yummy cakes , talk of Thai currys and other delicious foods.

I think I may get it all out of my system tomorrow.