to think I should be paid

[Myrandomfamily]

I work 4 hour shifts but these involve driving.

I don't get paid for the time I spend driving. So in a 4 hour shift I am only working for 3 and a half hours.

Aibu

This doesn't make much sense. Are you getting paid for 3.5 hours or 5? Are you a cleaner? Or a carer?

Well, I've tried to explain that I am at work from say 6:30 to 10:30 but am only paid three and a half hours on a typical shift, which seems pretty unfair really.

I'm not sure why that isn't clear or why there isn't enough info :)

Does your employer charge for the full 4 hours?

It isn't really enough info though. How many hours does your contract say you should work? Why are you working more hours than your contract says? Are you counting travelling to the place of work in order to start work? What sort of job is it?

What does your contract say?

what would happen if you said I am only being paid for 3.5 hours so I am only going to work for 3.5 hours?
what have they said as the reason they don't pay you for the half hour?

Zero hours contract.

I didn't say, or mean, I was working more hours than my contract says - I genuinely don't know why you have this impression.

No, travel (commute) isn't counted, which of course adds to the time and the money but obviously most people don't get paid expenses to get to work. Unless they are an MP

But the work involves going to see different people. So when I go from person A to person B this obviously takes time. Time I'm not paid for. That's my gripe basically.

there you go. an example of missing information zero hours contract. If you don't give the information, people make assumptions based on likely possibilities.

Another assumption - this is some sort of home care job. or something. so only paid for contact time and time taken to get from job to job is not classed as working.

That's not uncommon, unfortunately.

You aren't paid a wage for that half hour and they don't pay mileage on top of your wage either?

Sorry still don't know what you're on about.

Are you just driving to and from work? Or driving during your shift eg from house to house?

Your OP isn't clear. I don't know why you are getting so snippy.

I don't know what half the threads on here are on about.

I wonder what would happen if we all did that whenever we didn't know something.

Altin - I know what my contract says :) which is contact time only. But I feel it's wrong.

I honestly don't see why zero hours makes it relevant. I just feel it's wrong I can work sixteen hours and be paid for ten!

you see it as 4 hours working.

but really you have X number of clients for Y amount of time at £Z amount per client/minute with client. That's your wage calculation really. It may be done hourly for ease, but that's what it is.

but you should be asking why there is no mileage claim allowed.

Plinth, I feel people have been very brusque for no reason.

Sorry if I'm not 100% clear! I've been at work since 6 this morning and got in about an hour ago. I'm exhausted!

And I've explained re the driving. I'm driving from house to house, from person A to person B. They can be 10 mins away from each other and I'm not paid for those 10 mins.

You don't need to wonder. You know. We all do. we make assumptions based on what seems logical. Normally this is something that is familiar in our life. Until the OP comes back and says nah, you're wrong, it's this not that, people fill in blanks as best they can.

It's not a big deal, people just ask additional Qs if they aren't sure.

You are paid for the time actually spent with clients, but not for the time traveling between them?

If this is the case it's rubbish, but not sure what you can do about it as I am no legal expert. I would look for a different job (not easy in the current climate, I know).

You probably need to give more information about exactly what your job is if you want more detailed responses.

I know, it was the 'don't know what you're on about' I was huffing at

Believe me I don't know half the threads on here especially on health or legal matters but I don't inform the OP I don't know what they're on about , I just don't post!

< stops huffing >

:)

I have no idea about the legalities, but on a moral basis, if it is home care work, it has always struck me as unfairly low paid.

Unfair doesn't mean illegal though. I'm not sure which one you're asking about.

I know green. It just really gets me down that I work such long hours and am not actually paid for half of the time I actually work, if you see what I mean.

YANBU. It is no wonder employers struggle to recruit/retain carers when they treat workers like this.

Yeah, unfair. Obviously I can't change company policy.

It's just as I say, it really REALLY depresses me I can easily work a sixteen hour day, easily. But my wage slip doesn't reflect this if you see what I mean.