To think that if lone parents are switched from income support to jsa

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when their youngest child is 5, and with the lack of job opportunities, child care isn't cheap and the fear and threat of sanctions then this will just encourage women to go out and keep getting pregnant every few years to remain entitled to income support.
Please believe me this is not a debate about which is best sahm or working mums. I believe it should be a personal choice. My choice was to work. However I really don't think the government have thought this policy through.

Actually I look at it from the childs POVas well. assuming it's parent had slways been at home I agree 5 is too early ( school age) for many single parents to be in to any sort of decent work.
Children are very young at 5 and starting school is tiring and intensive. New school plus a new childminder/ before or after school club could be quite stressful .
Not to mention many schools do that staggered school day at the start .
By 7 they know the school, they have friends and hobbies. Much easier to sort out days when they are sick and Insets etch
For woman that know the best they could hope for is a in family friendly MW job, raising another child doesn't seem a bad choice.

Where are the men who get these women pregnant? No disgust for them?

and Breathe!

lone parents on TC get 79% of childcare paid for, jobs do exist - yabu

hth x

70% not 79!

Y'know though when a woman has been out of work for a while it can be really hard to get back into it, and we all know how some employers feel about women being mothers.

Fully agree revealall.

and morphine, fully agree.

Ha ha. You invited me by composing your dimwitted manifesto.

Loving your umbrage at people being abusive and unable to debate whilst you go to 'stick it up your arse' in 6 posts and displaying no debating skills what so ever.

Hilarious

agreed Mrs DV

What a ridiculous thread.

Who was invited ? I didnt see a guest list.

get back behind the velvet rope Misstired your name aint down on the list

Oh no

How many more of these gobshite threads are we going to have to put up with? From people who 'know' someone who is a lone parent, pumping out babies and living the high life?

It's all bollocks. Income Support is bugger all. As is JSA. I speak from a personal point of view. The hoops the DWP make you jump through, the personal humiliation and the shit you have to put up with is not worth these miniscule amounts of money you get given.

I, also, did not choose to be a lone parent. My children did not choose to have their Father fuck off out of their lives (as seems to be the case with many single Mums).

I am certainly not 'choosing' to live a life on benefits. It's shit and I hate it. I'm not having any more kids - even if it was worth it financially. I've got three, that's hard work enough on my own, thanks. No more pregnancies or labours for me.

I wish people spouting all their amazing theories would actually trade with someone like me for six months. Not with their 'friend on Facebook' or 'SIL'. Someone normal, real, like me or Derek and see how fucking wonderful it is being a single Mum on benefits in reality.

Otherwise, fuck off with all the 'I know someone who...' bollocks.

Devere. I gave my debate when I started my thread.
I work as a single mum it works for me. It doesn't work for everyone. That's all I meant and all I was saying is I can see why people may take the easy way out, not that I'm saying having a baby is easy before you all run after me with me with your flames, but surley it's got to be easier than not knowing from one week to the next whether you're going to be able to feed your family. i.e sanctions ect and I doubt lone parents are an exeption

I've always thoguht is for single parents should be in line with maternity leave then there should be support for parents to begin to get back into work (proper training, subsidised Childcare etc)

It stops parents being deskilled, keeps them in the loop etc. I appreciate it would be very hard to do and my idea is NOT about being punitive but supporting people to better lives.

I realise I sound like ids there but I do genuinely mean it...

jobs pay wages - which mean you can feed your kids ...not sure I follow you op

I think it's madness to suggest all these lone parents (myself included) will be dropping our draws and getting up the duff to avoid working - what about the men - how will they manage without spare babies (because men can be lone parents as well)

lots of single parents work - lots work before having kids and return after - we aren't all unemployable baby machines

I think it's massively patronising to think those who aren't in work don't want to be or are unemployable

Agree with Devere. So tired of these threads, solving the benefit "crisis" one shit stereotype at a time.

Debating doesn't come into it. You need to offer a reasoned argument and also listen to others point of view.

Anyway- I don't know why I'm even writing this.

These threads are fucking grim at best.

Gordy. I didn't suggest anything. I only asked...... FFS sorry I spoke.

My friend who's a single parent had to quit her job when she went back. It was impossible for her. Child was always ill from getting bugs at school and stuff so she had to take days off, she basically got pushed out of her job. It was horrendous for her. It's not a life many people would chose.

I think too many women have given up work and lacked the foresight of how disastrous to can be for a woman to completely leave the workplace. Much easier to struggle through the early years and negotiate childcare and flexible working with an existing employer who might be sympathetic rather than give up work completely and try to re enter work after years of absence.

I agree Floozey - I was so glad I didn't give into pressure from my husband to give up work - because when he left when our 3rd was 7mths old I would have been fucked financially