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To feel extreme anger over this Facebook status?

119 replies

AlexVause82 · 29/07/2014 12:23

"If you come into the Post Office, please do NOT proceed to tell us IT'S HOT!!!!! We know this as we are working whilst all you people with no jobs lap up the sunshine and spend my good earned TAX money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just because you have no job and receive £400 a week, doesn't mean you can flaunt it around when I work 40 hours a week for HALF your money!

Rant Over!!"

I am too angry to think of a reply right now. This person is always having a go at the jobless, it wasn't that long ago when her immediate friend circle - including me were long term unemployed. I see it as an insult to all of us

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EatDessertFirst · 29/07/2014 12:47

This is why I never post any statuses that concern work.

YANBU because it does seem unprofessional of her to rant about work in any form.

YWBU to report her to her employer because her Facebook status is, in theory, personal so what she says on it should remain private. Its not really your place to go running to her employer.

If you don't like what she writes, then unfriend/unfollow.

phantomnamechanger · 29/07/2014 12:48

kerry, you really think people are allowed to say whatever they like on FB, really?
no matter if it is racist, homophobic or bringing their place of work into disrepute?
what she said was out of order.

ShadowFall · 29/07/2014 12:50

You can't necessarily say whatever you like on fb or other social media.

My employer has a social media policy which all employees are required to comply with. One of the key points is that we're not allowed to post anything on social media that can bring the employer into disrepute.

So, say I've named my employer on fb and it's clear I work for them. If I then make abusive posts about customers, or posts that breach company policy as regards sexism, racism, porn, etc etc, I can be sacked. Because my posts reflect badly on my employer, even if the content is unrelated to my job, and even if it's my personal fb account.

EatDessertFirst · 29/07/2014 12:52

I stand corrected Smile.

It still wouldn't be fair to try and lose her her job though. She does have a point about the fact she works and others won't.

Staryyeyedsurprise · 29/07/2014 12:52

I remember your other post. She sounds horrible.

I'm amazed at what people I work with put on their FB pages - it'd only take one mean person to print off and send to HR and they'd be sacked.

I don't know what I'd do to be honest. If you tell her employer would you be comfortable with having a converstaion with her afterwards? I wouldn't be (although she doesn't sound very nice so no loss I suppose).

notkatemiddleton · 29/07/2014 12:53

Sounds like she's been reading the daily fail too much!

She needs to get something else to worry about- her own life, not other peoples.

AlexVause82 · 29/07/2014 12:56

I'm not going to report it, the last time I posted about her I was accused of being VVU.

She does have colleagues on her personal FB, they were also mocking the guy in the photo.

When I questioned her post about benefits she became very defensive.

On personal FB accounts ofc you can put what you want - but expect consequences. There are enough stories about people being repremanded by their employers to know better

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Staryyeyedsurprise · 29/07/2014 13:01

There was a judgement regarding someone disciplined (dismissed?) over a FB status. I'm sorry, I can't remember the details Blush but I remember the gist of the judge's ruling which was although a FB is personal, once you post something, you lose control over it as even if you have a secure account, you cannot control what the people who can see your status do with it. If they choose to distribute it in anyway, you can't stop them.

No idea how that squares with copyright etc but the judge ruled in the employer's favour.

MarchEliza · 29/07/2014 13:03

As ShadowFall said, many employers (and I am positive the Post Office or Royal Mail or whatever it is called these days will be one of them) have a Social Media Policy requiring employees to ensure they do not bring the brand or company into disrepute through social media postings.

I am sure her managers would take a very dim view of her expressing an opinion of this nature whilst identifying herself as an PO employee (and therefore representative.)

So if you really wanted to get her into trouble you could do. I doubt that will make you feel any better in the long run though, perhaps just take a deep breath and hide her nasty posts?

kerrymumbles · 29/07/2014 13:04

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MorphineDreams · 29/07/2014 13:06

You really have to be careful these days, what with social networking and everything. It's annoying. I have to re-read posts and usually end up deleting things I've said because I wouldn't want it to get in the wrong hands.

puntasticusername · 29/07/2014 13:07

Er, last time there were also many of us who said YANBU and you SHOULD report her. I was one of them. I'm saying the same thing now.

For me, it's not even all about what she's written - it's that she seems to have absolutely no conception of how to talk about her work on Facebook in an appropriate and professional fashion. Her employer has every right to concern itself with that, in my view. It's for them to decide what, if any sanctions she might face for her actions.

The person reporting her wouldn't "lose her her job" any more than I would be responsible for "putting someone in prison" if I testified against them in court. It would be their own actions that put them there, with the assistance of the criminal justice system.

puntasticusername · 29/07/2014 13:10

kerry I would imagine it will be in her employment contract so yes, very much something she has explicitly signed up to.

Joysmum · 29/07/2014 13:11

Personally I'd resort to my default setting of 'take the piss'.

I'd have posted that as I'm not on benefits and pay considerably more taxes than you I'll treat this as in visitation to come in to discuss the heat at great length.

Downtheroadfirstonleft · 29/07/2014 13:12

Or maybe wander in looking fabulous, with a bottle of iced champagne in your hand and sweetly buy a stamp and postcard, so you can let your friend/ mother/ whatever read about the wonderful garden party/ beach picnic/ whatever that you are about to go to!

OnIlkleyMoorBahTwat · 29/07/2014 13:16

400 A WEEK?! Do people really get that in benefits?

Of course they do, despite most of Mumsnet refusing to believe it - why do you think they are trying to implement a benefit cap that is higher than most people earn from working.

3+ DCs and part-time or no work. That's pretty much what a relative of mine gets and they own their own house, so no rent to pay either. Another gets a lot more than that but they do have rent to pay.

The person in the PO will see the same people coming in every week to collect their money without a care in the world and understandably get just a little bit pissed off about it.

Ranting about it to other customers or on social media is not on though.

AlleyCat11 · 29/07/2014 13:17

Horrible attitude, no matter where you're working. I was unemployed for a spell recently. The woman in the post office did nothing to hide her disdain for me. It was bad enough not having a job, without sourpuss making me feel worse! Working again now, thankfully.

Lesuffolkandnorfolk · 29/07/2014 13:20

I work fifty hours a week and have to use the post office. Her point is?

SilverDragonfly1 · 29/07/2014 13:28

If your friend is earning £200 for a 40 hour week, she needs to speak to her employer as that's less than minimum wage. Or could that be as hyperbolic as her claim about people getting £400 a week..?

Maybe she should give up her job if she feels a life on benefits is so wonderful and let someone with some moral decency and respect for others have it instead.

soverylucky · 29/07/2014 13:34

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Ohwhatfuckeryisthis · 29/07/2014 13:36

How is she still working? Rule one of fb, never make unprofessional comments. (Rule two, don't go on fb)

puntasticusername · 29/07/2014 13:37

It's not private, though, is it? As a pp said, the problem with putting content onto the internet is that once it's there, you entirely lose control of it.

In this case, one of her friends has seen it and now it's being seen and discussed by dozens or even hundreds of strangers on Mumsnet.

Ever heard that saying about not being able to put a genie back in a bottle?

dawndonnaagain · 29/07/2014 13:38

Of course they do, despite most of Mumsnet refusing to believe it - why do you think they are trying to implement a benefit cap that is higher than most people earn from working.
Yeah, all those benefit scrounging scum sunbathing and being generally idle, whilst dying of malnutrition, homelessness etc.
Confused

phantomnamechanger · 29/07/2014 13:40

soverylucky, as has already been said, even if your FB settings ARE private and restricted to genuine friends and family only rather than every Tom Dick or Harriet you have ever met, you still have NO control over what others may choose to do with your comments in the future.

People who carry on like that only have themselves to blame when it bites them on the arse. It is beyond naïve.

the photo of the customer and the mocking makes her sound like exactly the kind of person I would want nothing at all to do with.