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Disciplining someone else's child..

32 replies

nastybiker · 28/07/2014 14:28

For an offensive remark?

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steff13 · 28/07/2014 14:29

Was the other person there? What was the remark?

SuperLoveFuzz · 28/07/2014 14:29

More info needed

Staryyeyedsurprise · 28/07/2014 14:32

If you're "loco parentis" then yes, you discipline. If the child's parent is there, butt out.

KissMyFatArse · 28/07/2014 14:33

I'd prob say something if the remark was directed to my child even if the parents were there.

Nomama · 28/07/2014 14:34

'Mind your manners/mouth young wo/man' has been known to pass my lips on occasion.

I hate it when kids do this and no-one says anything.

nastybiker · 28/07/2014 14:37

Apologies. I hit post before I'd finished.

Boy about 12 with his mother in a supermarket, made a highly offensive remark about my appearance. Mother completely ignored it, and he laughed it off until I spoke to him. Mother then made several slurs about me and they boh left.

I felt indinated and victimised, spoke to the store manager and although the incident was captured on cctv there is no sound recording.

I would absolutely die if my DS were to say half of what this little turd did.

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Floop · 28/07/2014 14:38

In this case, I wouldn't discipline. You can't discipline a stranger. But you can react as you would react if it were an adult.

RiverTam · 28/07/2014 14:38

YANBU but if his mother is like that there's not much hope for him.

Mrsjayy · 28/07/2014 14:43

Yanbu that sounds awful cheeky bugger and the mother sounds no better he was outright cheeky and rude to you I would have told him off too

Nomama · 28/07/2014 14:45

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree, does it?

You can only walk away at that point. Or you risk getting caught up in something unpleasant. But NU at all!

nastybiker · 28/07/2014 14:45

So he actually called me a fat dyke p@k!..
I felt that he was old enough to understand the consequences, certainly didn't hold back.

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Staryyeyedsurprise · 28/07/2014 14:48

Maybe "discipline" isn't quite the word in this case. You'd have been within your rights to make a comment to the mother, but it seemingly would've made no difference to the situation.

Mrsjayy · 28/07/2014 14:48

Fgs horrible child and the mother should have stepped in,

skrumle · 28/07/2014 14:51

in my opinion that's not an offensive remark, it's a racially motivated breach of the peace...

i don't think you can "discipline" in those circumstances but i probably would respond/do something.

nastybiker · 28/07/2014 14:51

He was a horrible little child absolutely, I told him as much and more. Mother threatened to press charges, hence posting here to see if i overstepped the mark

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MrTumblesBavarianFanbase · 28/07/2014 14:52

Horrible child! But agree its hard to see how you could discipline somenody in that context - absolutely within your rights to respond verbally as you would to an adult, but not sure what else you could do as his mother sounds just like him...

whatsthatcomingoverthehill · 28/07/2014 14:53

Press charges? Haha.

I feel sorry for the kid who has obviously grown up thinking this is a reasonable thing to think, let alone say, to a complete stranger.

MrTumblesBavarianFanbase · 28/07/2014 14:54

As long as you didn't touch him nor swear back at him his mother was talking nonsense - what charges did she think she could press?

RiverTam · 28/07/2014 14:54

well, I'd love to know what charges she thought she could press, given that her son had been homophobic and racist to you. Some people really are beyond stupid and they'll never change or learn.

micah · 28/07/2014 14:56

I'd have asked her to please do press charges. Hopefully getting police involved would lead to it being pointed out they were in the wrong..

ArcheryAnnie · 28/07/2014 14:59

YANBU. A kid of that age is old enough to know what they are saying, and it's clear from the parent's response that they get this at home.

I'm sorry this happened to you, OP, and you were absolutely within your rights to tell this kid off, and to report it to the store.

It might even be worth reporting it (on the non-emergency line) to the police, as it was both racist and homophobic, and backed up by an adult even if committed by a kid. Even though they won't be able to do anything about this one particular incident, they should be compiling reports of how often this sort of thing happens in their patch.

nastybiker · 28/07/2014 15:00

I didn't touch him although he did fall over trying to run away. The fact that I'm not even from Pakistan clearly eluded him, my own son was out with my partner so fortunately he didnt have to endure this abuse.
She accused me of hitting him, a complete fabrication as well as verbally 'tormenting' him.

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MrsTerryPratchett · 28/07/2014 15:02

Agree that this is not about discipline. It's about natural consequences. This is currently a child but carry on like this and the Police eventually WILL be involved. The child needs to learn that, the mother too.

Sorry about what happened Flowers

ArcheryAnnie · 28/07/2014 15:11

She's an idiot as well as a bigot if she thinks supermarkets don't have cctv, and will clearly show you not hitting her kid!

Nomama · 28/07/2014 15:24

Well, that explains why you spoke to the manager - I originally thought that was a bit OTT. But no, not in the slightest.

Her son, if over 10, committed an actionable offence. The CCTV will back you up. So do, please, spend a pleasant hour imagining what could happen if she was stupid enough to try to press charges.

Poor kid hasn't much of a chance though.