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Are DH and I BU or is DM? Overseas visitors.

79 replies

ElphabaTheGreen · 19/07/2014 22:09

A bit of background so there's no drip feeding - I live with DH and 2.2yo DS in a house. My DM lives in a nice compact little annexe in our back garden as she has very impaired mobility and is better off nearby in case of falls and needing a daily hand with jobs she can't manage. This is a set-up we've had for years and it works fine. I am booked to give birth to DS2 by ELCS in two weeks time (beginning of August).

We are expecting a few visitors from OS (two from Australia, one from the US) in the next few months:

  • my 'dad', DM's ExH who is biologically not my dad but has always been nicer to me than the twat who I share genetics with. He's nice, I'm very pleased that he wants to meet my DCs, since their biological grandfather couldn't give a shit, but we've never lived together and we're really not that close
  • my cousin who's 20 years older than me and I've met twice, is talking about coming to visit in September/October. Again, she's nice, but she's really close to DM (her aunt), not me.
  • A friend of DM's who is again nice, but I'm not at all close to. I last saw her briefly (like for about 10 minutes) about 12 years ago.

DH and I are completely in agreement that we will not put any of them up in our house when they visit as we will be adjusting to coping with a toddler and a newborn, and have made this clear to DM. My dad particularly is planning on being around in time to see DS2 born, and I really don't want to be coping with post-partum hormones and leaking in front of him. We're pretty sure no visitor would particularly want to have to put up with any of that either, and dad has already said he doesn't expect us to put him up. DM does not have the room to have them in her annexe, but she's fixated on the fact that we have a spare bedroom and is incensed that we won't accommodate any of them. I get a snidey comment about it Every. Bloody. Day. She keeps telling me about all her friends who totally agree with her and would always put themselves out, no matter how much, to allow guests to stay. We have given her the contact details of a Wetherspoon's hotel less than 200m from our house that costs less than £100 per night to pass on to them but all she'll do is go on about how we let my best friend (who is more like a DSis to me as we're both only children) and her toddler stay when DS was four months old, but won't let family, who I'm likely to inherit from, and an old friend of hers stay. DM cannot contribute to any catering for visitors, nor can DH as he can't cook, so it would be all my responsibility on top of newborn and 2 yo, and all chauffeuring and out-of-home entertainment would be down to me/DH as DM is basically house-bound. Mainly me probably, as DH won't have any AL left to take, not that I'll be allowed to drive for 6 weeks.

Who is BU here - DM or us?

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hamptoncourt · 20/07/2014 09:31

OP YANBU but you do need to double/triple check that these visitors DM has invited are not going to just rock up at your door with their suitcases.

If I were you I would insist on getting contact details for them on any old pretext so you can make sure it is clear they cannot stay.

DM is totally out of order.

ElphabaTheGreen · 20/07/2014 09:36

I'm thinking I might just nip onto DM's computer when she's not looking and get their emails. They wouldn't mind and it would be a way of them being able to say themselves to mum, 'We wouldn't dream of imposing on Elph.' They're reasonable people and would be totally understanding, thus getting rid of the problem, since sense, logic and reason isn't cutting it with DM.

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Dubjackeen · 20/07/2014 09:38

And then just stop any further discussion. Tell her it's not up for discussion, if she tries to start it.
Best of luck with arrival of new baby.

Dutch1e · 20/07/2014 09:43

I'm curious too, to know how these people were invited.

Might be time for a little reminder to DM about boundaries. Seems like she's getting a bit too comfortable in her imaginary role as matriarch of your household!

And possibly time to start looking quizzical and wondering out loud about the early signs of dementia as she seems to have forgotten she brought up this topic yesterday. Wink

puntasticusername · 20/07/2014 10:39

You know she has told them they are staying at yours and not to even consider going to a hotel even if they want to, don't you?

That is absolutely, 100% stone cold certain what she's done. Hence her current dismay at your failure to fall into line.

hamptoncourt · 20/07/2014 10:41

Yes puntastic that is exactly what my DM would have done too......

ElphabaTheGreen · 20/07/2014 11:23

Yes, pun - that's what I supposed in my post at 8:27. She's done it before...Hmm

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SilenceOfTheSAHMs · 20/07/2014 11:30

There was a similar thread on here about 6 months ao about a lady who was in a similar position to you OP, she was due to give birth and her DP had invited his parents round for 2 weeks after. She was unanimously supported in her decision to stop this happening.

OP you are being more that accommodating having your DM stay in your annexe, as others have said, so stick to your guns.

As others have said, please check whats what, as I think she may have told them to just turn up.

This is your private time OP. Own it! Thanks

Inertia · 20/07/2014 11:33

I think you are right- making direct contact with the relatives yourself is the only solution. Bypass your mum completely, just as she's done with you.

ChoosandChipsandSealingWax · 20/07/2014 11:34

Pun has hit the nail on the head.

Definitely break into her email and get the emails and head them off at the pass - YADDDDNBU - no way can you cope and it's very unfair of your DM to presume/guilt trip you about it. And anyway, it's not a spare room if you need it for DH while you are co-sleeping. End of.

Worriedkat · 20/07/2014 11:36

Get right onto it, email or otherwise contact these visitors. Say you hoped they had sorted their accommodation ok, if not here's a list of hotels/b&b near you if they had planned to stay close by.

Don't leave it whatever you do. In case your mum angst's in silence and then opts for tears/denial when they're stood on your doorstep with suitcases.

Worriedkat · 20/07/2014 11:38

Oh and keep us updated, we're all rooting for you Smile

ElphabaTheGreen · 20/07/2014 21:13

Found them on Facebook so no need to hack the old lady's computer! Grin

PMs sent as follows:

Hi X,

I hear that you're considering making a visit to sunny(?) at some point soon-ish to visit mum. We'd love to be able to put you up, but unfortunately with a toddler and a newborn (especially if he's anything like as much trouble as his big brother) it won't really be possible for us, and probably quite unpleasant for you! Non-sleeping, screamy genes seem to run in our family, it would seem... We do, however, have a perfectly reasonable hotel chain not five minutes walk from our house in one direction, and 10 minutes walk in the other direction to the town centre with regular trains to City X, City Y and City Z if you fancy a day trip. We've had a few friends stay there - it's not posh, apparently, but it's perfectly serviceable and the pub downstairs is quite civilised and does nice breakfast. The website for the hotel is:

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PicandMinx · 20/07/2014 21:22

Great email.

WallyBantersJunkBox · 20/07/2014 21:24

Great mail, and you can see when they've read it on FB messenger, can't you?

So check tomorrow that the message has been received by all.

FryOneFatManic · 20/07/2014 21:25

OP, just remember that if you're not FB friends with these people your messages may go into the "other" message box and may not be found in time.

I found one message about a year after it was sent....... I hadn't realised about the "other" box!

FryOneFatManic · 20/07/2014 21:26

And don't assume you'll not be able to drive for 6 weeks after a CS. I drove after 2, once the doctor was happy with me, and my insurers told me I was insured once the doctor okayed driving.

ElphabaTheGreen · 20/07/2014 21:44

Thanks fry. If I haven't had a response from either in a few days, I'll resume plan 'Hack Into The Old Lady's Computer'.

I was forbidden to drive for six weeks by both insurance and doctor after my first CS, so I'm planning for the worst, but intending to kick up a fuss to get it overturned this time. With DC1, we were living in a very rural/remote area, 8 miles to the nearest place with even so much as a convenience store, and DH was working away pretty much the whole time, so I was completely isolated with a newborn and a disabled mum and banned from driving. Narrow, windy country roads with no footpaths meant I couldn't even take DS out in his pram. Balls, it was. Doctor still wouldn't bend. Hmm Confused We're in a much better location now, but the memories of no-one being able to hear me or DS scream in those early days still haunt me.

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ElphabaTheGreen · 20/07/2014 22:25

Ha! Message from cousin already: 'No fucking way was I planning on staying with you with a toddler and a baby'. She already had the hotel bookmarked Grin

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WallyBantersJunkBox · 20/07/2014 22:37

Result! Wine

HeartsTrumpDiamonds · 20/07/2014 22:38

Cousin sounds like our kind of gal Grin

ChoosandChipsandSealingWax · 20/07/2014 22:42

Like it, and liking the cousin!

Dubjackeen · 21/07/2014 08:15

Result!

bedraggledmumoftwo · 21/07/2014 08:47

Result.
sounds like you have it sorted, but just wanted to say yanbu- i didn't really want my own dm staying with me postpartum, let alone if she had invited her friends! Think it is a common theme though- as they get older they get more self-centred and completely forget how hard it is. My due date was 2 weeks before Xmas so i could have been giving birth on Christmas day but i still had to expressly veto her inviting her cousin, who i barely know and dislike, to come for Christmas at mine!

puntasticusername · 21/07/2014 08:55

Heh, great email from you and great news back! So that's two down, one to go, right?