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Aibu to be incensed at the lack of coverage of the protests against Israel by the mainstream media?

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runes · 19/07/2014 18:23

Over 100,000 people descend on London to protest against Israel slaughtering the people of Gaza. Where are the reports on the bbc, sky etc?? I'm appalled, not only at the horrendous mass murder of the Palestinian people, but the obviously corrupt and biased pro Israeli mediaAngry Angry

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brokenhearted55a · 20/07/2014 07:25

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DogCalledRudis · 20/07/2014 07:28

Yugoslavia IS in Europe.

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Backinthering · 20/07/2014 07:28

Brokenhear

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Backinthering · 20/07/2014 07:28

Broken

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Backinthering · 20/07/2014 07:31

Phone is going mad sorry. The US funds Israel, something like a third of their foreign aid budget gets sent there. So absolutely yes the onus is on them.
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brokenhearted55a · 20/07/2014 08:00

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Backinthering · 20/07/2014 08:17

No you misunderstand my point. I mean the US funds Israel, therefore it's to some extent liable for it's actions against the Palestinians.

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Backinthering · 20/07/2014 08:19

I'd be more than happy if the US stopped funding Israel, stopped blocking US resolutions against them and took nothing further to do with them.

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DogCalledRudis · 20/07/2014 08:28

Yugoslavia is different. It was a country artificially created by the Soviets, from ethnicities who sincerely hate each other. When USSR fell, all hell broke lose.

Palestine is basically concentration camps. Open air prison. There is a good film to see -- Occupation 101

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backbystealth · 20/07/2014 09:37

How ironic that this thread is about bias towards Israel.

This thread's bias against Israel is pretty much absolute. And it is in newspaper coverage too! Where are you all looking? Go online now - there is no Israeli bias!

The killing of Palestinian civilians is horrendous. I understand the outrage. But it's really not as clear cut as the 'American backed bully boys are murdering children'.

Hamas is a brutal, extreme, violent organisation. They fired hundreds of rockets at Israel. They snubbed a ceasefire.

I know people in Israel (Beersheba) and many Israelis fervently believe Hamas don't warn their people of imminent attacks and use them as a shield. Hamas's infrastructure (if that's the right word) is based in civilian buildings and areas - Israel warns civilians before striking (yes I know those people are urged to flee and that's a terrible situation to be in). Most Israelis hate the civilian casualties on both sides as they are just people like you and me but are terrified of what Hamas will do next if not reacted to strongly.

Let's remind ourselves that Israel was created after the holocaust to give Jews a homeland. A place of safety for all Jews from all over the world many of whom lost everything, were refugees, and were persecuted in ways we cannot even imagine. Israel was created by the UN.

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babbas · 20/07/2014 17:23

We are Jewish and appalled at the actions of israel. The reporting has been biased sadly. The irony of course is that Israel was created to give jews a place of safety free from persecution, yet they unleashed a genocide on the inhabitants of their new safe place inflicting persecution and apartheid on them.

There's currently a very interesting thread on this topic in the In the news section on mn.

Back to media bias, I feel things are drastically changing this time around because twitter and fb and social media has ensured that the real images are being broadcast the world. They are everywhere and are horrific.

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backbystealth · 20/07/2014 18:13

I'm Jewish too babbas. Do you have relatives or friends in Israel in or around Jerusalem? What do they say?

I am sympathetic to your view, very much so. I'm not a Zionist nor even a practising Jew actually and I hate acts of aggression from any country or faction. I feel torn.

But it's ironic to me that people talk of bias yet the bias against Israel is immense without people fully knowing the facts or history or actually what's really going on - do you and others accept that there is Palestinian probaganda all over social media?

We are not always seeing 'the truth' in this or any other conflict on social media - I think it's the most manipulated and infiltrated medium of all.

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backbystealth · 20/07/2014 18:14

Propaganda

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runes · 20/07/2014 19:25

Where is the anti Israel bias? I keep hearing about the thousands of rockets from Hamas, but nothing about the blockade of the Gaza Strip, the deteriorating living conditions and the illegal Jewish settlements. You speak of propaganda but the most disgusting piece of propaganda in my view is the Israeli attempt to paint the Palestinians as hate filled monsters who would gladly see their own women and children die in order to kill Jews. The fact is Israel has murdered over 300 people and attempts to deflect responsibility for the innocents that they have murdered by talk of Hamas using them as human shields is frankly sickening.

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runes · 20/07/2014 19:36
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halfdrunkcoffee · 20/07/2014 19:47

Superstaary

Prior to 1948 all Arabs -jews, christians and muslims lived peacfully in Palestine.

Sadly that isn't quite correct.

To get back on topic I have to admit I don't watch the news very often. I saw an article on BBC news online about the London demo but I don't think it received as much coverage as it could have done.

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backbystealth · 20/07/2014 19:53

What newspapers are you reading? Genuine question as I am completely perplexed. All newspapers and sites I have read today are condemning Israel, quite roundly.

How do you know that (some) Israeli people are attempting to deflect responsibility?

How do you know that Hamas is not putting its people at risk for propoganda?

Where are you getting your information?

Why do you choose to only believe the anti Israeli social media/media reports?

What do you know about Hamas - do you reject the idea it is an extremist organisation that hates Jews as you seem to suggest above?

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backbystealth · 20/07/2014 19:55

fgs propaganda

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Backinthering · 20/07/2014 19:58

There is no context that can justify the slaughter of hundreds of civilians with nowhere to run.
The fact that every media outlet on the planet is not a howl of outrage and condemnation is beyond me.

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backbystealth · 20/07/2014 20:00

It's not the media's job to 'howl with outrage' - it is their job to report the facts! It is politician's and the public who's 'job' it is to howl with outrage.

However headlines, commentary, features in all newspapers today were not biased towards Israel!

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backbystealth · 20/07/2014 20:01

Whose not who's. My god I cannot type today.

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runes · 20/07/2014 20:28

But the politicians aren't howling with outrage. Cameron and Obama have backed up Israels right to defend itself!Hmm Where is the condemnation in the mainstream media? The only decent thing I've seen so far was on Channel 4 news. Well done Jon Snow m.youtube.com/watch?v=M_-76H-YRjs

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babbas · 20/07/2014 20:29

This is a copy of today's Washington post. I think this is highly biased in favour of israel. The headline says it all. Nearly 400 dead now but they seem more concerned about the 2 Israelis killed as 'Hamas steps up' it's campaign. Wow. Unbelievable.

Aibu to be incensed at the lack of coverage of the protests against Israel by the mainstream media?
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FabULouse · 20/07/2014 20:39

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Rhine · 20/07/2014 20:41

Isreal gets a ridiculously easy time from the other governments of the world, and if any other nation did things they did there would be hell to pay. The BBC has been accused of anti semtitism in the past for being critical of Isreal, which may be a reason why others news organisations are reluctant to speak out.

It's not getting much attention on the news because of the Plane Attack, because the ramifications of that could be huge.

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