To want my usually lovely friend to stop harrassing me about Forever Living

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She has recently got involved with Forever Living. We used to be in touch every month or so via email, text or fb (We live opposite ends of the country) but since she has got involved with this it's every single day more or less. She sends chatty messages but always drops in 'Have you thought about it some more' 'They are really good products' etc. Another mutual friend told me she has also been emailing her the same thing, again and again and again. Mutual friend and I have both already told her we're not interested in becoming part of it but we wish her luck and hope it works out.

What has happened to our usually sane and lovely friend? It's impossible to have a conversation with her without Forever Living being mentioned repeatedly. It's like she has been taken over by a cult or something the way she keeps going on about it.

I looked into the company and it seems to be a MLM company. Some of the articles I have read make it seem like a very fine line between that and a pyramid scheme. A lot of people also saying they made no or very little money trying to sell inferior products at an inflated price.

She's not made any money yet but is playing a well off future down to them. Is she kidding herself, has anyone here been selling these products and made any money doing it?

People who work for FL claim it does everything bar the washing up. I would advise against asking your FL friend because she will most likely give you the hard sell and you'll end up being sold a £200 9-day course of detox gunk.

I love Aloe Vera. It's the main ingredient in some very expensive undereye creams and gels. I do think it has miraculous healing powers on the skin. We have two pots of it growing on the balcony and I pay nothing.

what do you do with it, mimi? do you squeeze out the gunk and use as a mask?

I guess it doesn't really matter if it's an old thread as still relevant. FL hasn't gone away sadly!

I used a piece of aloe vera on bare skin once. Straight from the plant- it did feel mildly soothing but it STANK and I had to wash off the smell!

thanks MissBattleaxe - I guess FL/aloe vera are not for me then on so many levels.

Achala,

that's a measured and reasonable reply and you obviously feel loyal to FL. However, this bit jumped out at me Probably about 80% of the distributors on this planet do not have a clue what they are doing and have now become desperate.

That does not endear Forever Living to me at all!

And although it's not pyramid selling, it is Multi level Marketing which is very similar, although legal.

I have stumbled across two FL reps in my time and both were unable to have a neutral small talk style conversation with me without bringing it back to FL. It made me run a mile rather than buy anything, and if so many FL reps are doing this, then surely the company is seriously getting it wrong?

I've heard there are a few of these going around, one with makeup (not Avon obviously), but I've seen not a sausage amongst my friends, FB or IRL. My friends are all oddballs though.

"You want me to join in your "team"?
Tap into your revenue stream?
A market can grow
Only so far, you know.
It's just a big pyramid scheme."

Some comedy gold there from Aleksandra....

'if it's a friend give them the benefit of the doubt'..... HA! If you've read even a fraction of the accounts some have of their 'friends' behaving completely nuts and hugely aggressively and intrusively, you'd realise how utterly weak and ridiculous you sound on that point.

I depsise anyone who tries to persuade me to part with money. I want to be able to pay my bills, support my kids and whatever I have left over to be my decision on how I spend it.

• I don't want to give to charity after a 2 minute rambled explanation from a flirty douchebag looking for commission, I give to charity based on which ones mean something to me.
• I don't want to do a 'job' where I have to pay hundreds of pounds to start. I have managed to find jobs where I attend an interview and if they like me they let me work free of charge then pay ME at the end of the month!
• I don't want to spend hundreds of pounds to lose weight by basically starving myself when I can change my food shop to healthy things and join the gym for £17 a month (or even just walk or run for free) to lose weight and be healthy.
• I specifically hate people who don't know me but add me on facebook with 'hun this hun that hun I don't know you from fanny ann hun but I think you would be a fantastic seller of my shit product hun'

All in all I generally hate sales people of any kind and I think that they desperately need to look at their techniques of selling, actually explaining HOW the products work would be a start, WHY it costs so much money. Oh and the definition of 'No' needs to be incorporated into their training as well.

Urgh! Dont even get me started on this... My best friend tried to rope me in to this scam, err, scheme - maybe you'll just have to politely say thanks for considering me, but it's just not for me.
I despise the way me friend is praying on people who are vulnerable, looking for cures to their ills, and recruiting people who are desperate to make money. I hate the way he is allowing Forever to publicise that because of them, he could afford a very nice car with personalised plates, which in fact, he bought with his redundancy payout, said the product 'cured' him of his IBS (since admitted it didn't), and goes to conferences where doctors who are 'experts' in aloe Vera tell them it can cure all kinds of things and giving them terrible misinformation (e.g. Coeliacs is a malasorbtion syndrome - err, is so is not!!).
I'll be there for him when he realises all the time, effort & money he has poured into recruiting other people to sell snake oil for him so he can cream off a percentage of their sales, just isn't worth it.

Just really need to say forever is not a Pyramid scheme, they are now illegal. It's a great company that provides a positive environment to flourish. Yes I am a forever living fan! 1st the products are amazing I use them, my kids do and all my family do because they work. I have an auto immune condition that for years I have been in pain and taking assorts or pain killers heavy duty ones tramadol, cocodomal even morphine! I have not needed them since taking the aloe gel! But this plant had been a miracle plant for millennia! If you dont want to bye forever products don't! but don't bye the crap juices on the high st they are not as potent or good. Buy an aloe plant than to get the quantities. work out more expensive but at least you will get the real deal. I have the dreaded aloe mouth and watch my friends with many skin conditions or things like ibs they plough chemicals daily into their body to still be in the same position, pharmaceutical companies in bed with government who pump out a lot of products we don't need hold back the products we do all in the name of profit. By all means keep on the side that holds you back just don't put down aloe Vera properties or forever down because you don't understand. Any naysayers I have not made any profit from forever living I use the products and love the benefits! I use the products love them so I will join I love the positive environment it is!

Are Forever Living responsible for Clean 9? Our local Colour Me Beautiful consultant has started selling this. When she was doing the colour consulting she would post on FB maybe twice a month. Now she's flogging Clean 9, it's every bloody day. Filling up my Newsfeed with this rubbish. I have totally lost respect for her.

Just to echo what someone said earlier... If I was a distributer selling something genuinely amazing for a good profit the absolute LAST thing I'd do would be try to recruit others in my area to compete with me!

they are good products they are just expensive i still use them though but i could never sell them i mean asking £12 for some cream doesnt sit right with me sorry no matter how good it is

If is so great they why not just sell and market it like any other product?
I have someone on my FB who does it and nowhere does it actually say what they are selling. It's all about " life changing" and other inspirational shite like that.
If is good and there is no pyramid scheme going on just say what it is you do for a living and ask i f I want some.

This American life did a great podcast on wake up now! Which is another MLM company. Very interesting.

m.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/543/wake-up-now

I always think of the lesson we learnt about chain mail at school. If 6 people send a letter to 6 people....and so on after 12 levels your letter has gone to the entire world. Including those in jail, poverty, war, children, millionaires and people allergic to aloe Vera. It's mathematically impossible to make anyone except the top levels rich.

Want to be a business owner? Own something. Produce something. Do it on your own. Don't "buy" a job.

One if my friends does this and it's doIng my head in . This weekend started asking about peolke with eczema , IBS etc and then offering miracle cures.

This is so weird that this thread has resurfaced because a colleague is trying to push a forever living detox thing on me for the last few weeks. It seems to basically be starve yourself and take a laxative. Of course you will lose weight, your body is dehydrated but the second you start to eat or drink normally the weight will go back on. Its not fat weightloss its essential water weightloss.

The tube of the aloe gelly is apparently first aid in a tube and the only thing you'll ever need according to my fb. It's driving me crazy. I think she has roped in a couple of her friends Idiots

We have three people at work all trying to sell this crap. The newest one had to have a month off sick because she had an allergic reaction to the products and most of the skin on her hands fell off. If you are totally desperate to buy the products, there are loads on ebay, £££ cheaper than what the reps sell them for.

Forever living is a complete con. I've seen normal rational people be completely brainwashed by this, it has a very cult-like feel to the whole thing. And the constant inspirational posts on Facebook "I love what I do", "that's what's so great about this job, helping other people" make me want to hurl. I know their reps stand outside schools targeting mums to recruit. I think it's wrong, they are preying in the vulnerable.