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AIBU to be really annoyed at benefits Britain characters

122 replies

Fatallyshy · 30/06/2014 22:25

Boo hoo your children won't get the latest games consoles while you spend all your time with them but you don't you prat about with your mates getting drunk. While me and my partner work all hours we can to pay the bills we cannot afford the dog (that you have) the new games consoles the holidays and in a few month we won't be able to afford the rent, or the heating.

Aibu to wantt a better life than the those one the dole when I work for everything I have?

OP posts:
Darkesteyes · 30/06/2014 23:45

The Year of the Sex Olympics is a 1968 television play made by the BBC and first broadcast on BBC2 as part of Theatre 625. It stars Leonard Rossiter, Tony Vogel, Suzanne Neve and Brian Cox. It was directed by Michael Elliott. The writer was Nigel Kneale, best known as the creator of Quatermass.

Influenced by concerns about overpopulation, the counterculture of the 1960s and the societal effects of television, the play depicts a world of the future where a small elite control the media, keeping the lower classes docile by serving them an endless diet of lowest common denominator programmes and pornography. The play concentrates on an idea the programme controllers have for a new programme which will follow the trials and tribulations of a group of people left to fend for themselves on a remote island. In this respect, the play is often cited as having anticipated the craze for reality television.

When you think how many shit reality shows we have today this sounds a bit like a tv version of a prophecy.

Darkesteyes · 30/06/2014 23:47

I don't watch benefit bashy crap but I DID notice from the write up in the Radio Times that one of the people in the programme is an ex steelworker.

You perhaps should look into what happened to their industry as well as the miners OP.

WashingFanatic · 30/06/2014 23:48

I saw one, and it doesn't make me angry. There's nothing to envy in scraping by on the dole.

The only thing that gave me the rage was seeing the mother of a 6 week old with baby in one arm and fag in the other. No amount of biased editing could have made her look as much of a scummy disgusting waster than that one clip.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 30/06/2014 23:48

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It's a dog that has paid nothing into the system, not a penny of tax, but still claims ludicrous sums of money to fund their bonio and gravy bone habits. They are laughing behind their paws at the honest taxpayers.

This is fur real, I tell you, Fideliney! Grin

gamerchick · 30/06/2014 23:48

I have to say that the woman doing the voice over got right on my norks on last week's. She's too enthusiastic in her riling up the masses.

TucsonGirl · 30/06/2014 23:48

The mines shut 30 YEARS AGO. The steelworks nearly as long ago. Are you seriously saying that there are still "unemployed miners" and "unemployed steelworkers" out there?

hotfuzzra · 30/06/2014 23:49

Derail alert...
OP are you Fatally Shy, or are you Fat Ally Shy?

Darkesteyes · 30/06/2014 23:52

Tucson you and others on here are very fond and quick enough to point out to other MNers that it was their choice to have children.

Well it wasn't the miners OR the steelworkers choice to lose their jobs so why aren't you applying the same logic there.....oh wait

inchanpre · 30/06/2014 23:54

I feel sorry for them that those are their lives. Nothing to envy about them in the least.

Fideliney · 30/06/2014 23:55

groan @ 'fur real' Grin

Tucson the guy on tonight's programme served his apprenticeship at British Steel. That was his training/education/skill. There was nothing else available when he was made redundant, he had been scratching along ever since. How does a destitute person in a depressed city fund retraining or secure a non-existent job?

Darkest they skirted briefly over the steel industry back story. The programme has a very wobbly editorial line combined with a tabloid delivery. Deeply odd.

bigdog888 · 30/06/2014 23:59

More poor quality Channel 5 programmingbigdog?

More fucking scroungers!

Darkesteyes · 01/07/2014 00:00

From the above link.

When I look round my community now I feel well at least I tried to do something to prevent this happening – my conscience is clear. In our community now we’ve got about five food banks and on a Monday we serve breakfast. Five years ago we had 47-48 people coming for their breakfast, and do you know we had 111 yesterday? They’re not only young lads that are coming now, they’re people with children, and we’re getting people probably my age – 65, 70 years old – coming because of the Bedroom Tax. It’s a long time, 30 years on, but we knew this would happen – they shut our industry down. They’re importing coal and there’s thousands and thousands of tonnes of coal beneath our feet – and here we are going into this dangerous nuclear power. This is our society in 2014, where we should be going forward, and we knew in 1984 this was going to come – that’s why we fought so hard. And we did fight hard. The women were very, very brave. - See more at: www.feministtimes.com/anne-scargill-theres-no-jobs-theres-nothing-in-1984-we-knew-this-would-happen/#sthash.t6bqaShy.dpuf

inchanpre · 01/07/2014 00:00

The programme was absolute rubbish. Voiceover person constantly reminding us what the benefits have funded for these people. Horrible exploitative crap.

Disclaimer. I didn't watch it all, I couldn't, and only after it was mentioned on here.

Darkesteyes · 01/07/2014 00:02

The Year of the Sex Olympics is a 1968 television play made by the BBC and first broadcast on BBC2 as part of Theatre 625. It stars Leonard Rossiter, Tony Vogel, Suzanne Neve and Brian Cox. It was directed by Michael Elliott. The writer was Nigel Kneale, best known as the creator of Quatermass.

Influenced by concerns about overpopulation, the counterculture of the 1960s and the societal effects of television, the play depicts a world of the future where a small elite control the media, keeping the lower classes docile by serving them an endless diet of lowest common denominator programmes and pornography. The play concentrates on an idea the programme controllers have for a new programme which will follow the trials and tribulations of a group of people left to fend for themselves on a remote island. In this respect, the play is often cited as having anticipated the craze for reality television.

TucsonGirl · 01/07/2014 00:02

Where is this programme set? Sheffield? I work in the city, and live just down the road in Chesterfield. There's no excuse for someone to have been laid off that long ago and still unable to find work.

TucsonGirl · 01/07/2014 00:05

Darkest eyes stop cutting and pasting.

"Tucson you and others on here are very fond and quick enough to point out to other MNers that it was their choice to have children.

Well it wasn't the miners OR the steelworkers choice to lose their jobs so why aren't you applying the same logic there.....oh wait"
What logic? That makes no sense at all. You lose your job. That isn't something permanent like having a child is. You get another job, move on with your life. Or what is the alternative? Being a 60 year old "unemployed miner" who last worked in his 20s?

D0oinMeCleanin · 01/07/2014 00:08

I was talking to someone yesterday who had an interview today. It was for a position she has previously never had an interest in, but in her words she's been "applying for anything and everything" and often "applies for so many I forget what I've applied for and apply twice"

This is her first interview in 6 months. Over 400 people applied for that one job. We don't live in a very big town.

There are not enough jobs for everyone to be in employment. There never has been, there never will be. It's simple math.

Fideliney · 01/07/2014 00:14

Tucson the conditions the man was living in were unspeakable. He was barely existing. Yet he was pushing hard to gain one of just 12 places on a jobcentre training course so he could gain an extra qualification. He was intelligent and eloquent about his experiences. I'm not really sure what you are suggesting.

TucsonGirl · 01/07/2014 00:15

There are enough jobs for there to be no excuse for someone to be unemployed for 30 years.

Or do we just accept that there is a permanent underclass of unemployable people? Because I don't think that is even remotely sustainable.

somedizzywhore1804 · 01/07/2014 00:15

Caught the end of it and all I gleaned was that there seemed to be some kind of FFM ménage a trois going on with those girls and the jailbird. Thought it was a programme about swingers, was disappointed to hit the info button and see it was another benefits bashing thing. Swingers would have been way more interesting.

TucsonGirl · 01/07/2014 00:17

I didn't watch the programme. I have worked with plenty of former miners and their wives and families. Far too many of them were too proud and to obstinate to move on and accept that things had changed, and the Labour government were all too happy to allow them to live on benefits with few conditions attached. Now the Tories are cracking the whip a little people seem to be getting upset as if a life on benefits is some kind of entitlement.

cozietoesie · 01/07/2014 00:18

Give it time, somedizzy. Someone will punt the relevant programme outline sooner or later. (Combined swinging and benefit bashing.)

Fideliney · 01/07/2014 00:18

I think Tuscon that when the jobs situation picked up in the 90s, the men with 5, 8, 10 year gaps on their CVs who hadn't yet learned to speak the language of transferable skills, were not the most employable. I think the psychological effects of long term unemployment and long term, repeated rejection and long term grinding, below-the-breadline poverty do not enhance employability.

Smelsa · 01/07/2014 00:22

This thread reminds me actually that I could do with some more moneyz. Anyone recommend somewhere to find a suitable sperm donor?