To think pierced ears on a baby look horrible.

[Tealady1983]

So on fb tonight and a old school friend had pictures of her 3month ish baby with her ears pierced am I the only one that think this looks awful and that it's a bit cruel?

but when you start talking about living in a civilised world you are starting to cross over to I am of a more civilised than those parents who chose to pierce their children ears or circumcise their son

is our culture of mainly not doing so more civilised than say Spanish culture

many do not think it over so much they do not feel the need to

YANBU

I'd be pissed off with my parents if they stuck holes in my body at such a young age because they thought it would look pretty or cute. I was such a tomboy, I would have loathed them.

Spanish people are free to make their own choices, same as Brits.

What Crayola said.

The gun isn't sterile. It will have splatters of other people's blood still on the unsterilised parts and the gun itself can't be sterilised.

A reputable, proper piercer will have had many months of training. The person wielding a piercing gun will not be a trained piercer. Generally it just someone who works in the shop and has been given a few minutes training on the use of a machine that can do a lot of damage.

Grinning my pearly white nashers at youmakemehappy

Each to their own, but I think it looks tacky on any child under 10.

I don't think it's cruel - getting your ears pierced doesn't hurt that much. And if the mum is a loving parent surely that matters more than whether her baby's ears are pierced. When there are children out there who are actually being cruelly treated, I would not apply the word cruel to ear piercing.
I wouldn't do it myself to my children, but then, everyone has very different taste in this world. It's called variety and makes the place more interesting.

No respectfully you are mixing the issue and overthinking it.

My view is I would not and don't think it's my place to perform or allow others to perform painful, generally permanent cosmetic procedures on my child as I consider children to have the rights as adults to autonomy over their bodies.

Another adult couldn't perform a piercing on you could they without your consent.

Civilised behaviour to me is behaviour that respects another human beings right over their body at point of birth to death.

That has nothing to do with culture or religion or anything else.

It's a fundamental human right.

Wow, they are binding Iscream!

Could definatly do with a teeth whitening procedure myself. Also a tummy tuck and liposuction.

I bloody wish someone would take me and pay for it.

Anyway, just because it's 'fashionable' to have pierced ears, I find it almost impossible to buy earrings for properly brought up non-pierced ears. I buy them, at charity shops. Some gems there.

Too many bloody happy posters on here. Confusing myself

Err reading back to my post... yes it was rather clumsily put, it was a looong night

What i meant to ask was would it be acceptable for a carer to take an adult with severe mental disabilities (to the extent where they cannot consent) to have their ears pierced for no other reason than vanity purposes?

Genuine question btw, in my mind its a similar scenario and im not comfortable with either.

Haven't RTFT (how terrible of me!) I couldn't get past OP's comment that it makes babies look rough

WTAF? How can a baby look rough?

I got my ears pierced at 21, 21 years later I wish I hadn't bothered, but I was an adult and had made the choice to pierce my ears myself.

My DNiece had hers done when she was 10, but it was her and my sisters choice.

I would prefer my DD's to wait until they are adults (but they are still young and I might soften in time)

My point being, it is down to an individual with they chose to have theirs or their children ears pierced, but if they do or don't do they have to expect that people may form opinions of them without knowing them based on whether or not they like seeing babies or toddlers with pierced ears.

Looks like the majority are against ear piercing on babies/young children.
If you want to ignore this opinion, that's your prerogative, and good luck with it.

This really has been done to death.

But you didn't know that and have not seen the (thousands of) other threads which do all end in the same bunfight

I personally think YANBU and I personally hate it. If there was a vote on banning it altogether I would vote for that ban.

But since there isn't a vote and I don't get a say in how other people raise their children then I accept it is just my personal view and other people are entitled to like it and do it if they wish.

I think piercing a baby's ears is fine and had the means been available* when my dd was a baby, I would have done so. I also think babies with little earrings look very attractive. I've only seen babies with studs and toddlers with hoops, but not many of either, living in a very conservative area it's not a popular choice hereabouts. I'm sure the children grow up with them and therefore do not pull/twist or otherwise interfere with them.

*Having them done with gold in sterile conditions by someone properly trained.

I had DD1 when I was 16 and got her ears pierced when she was 1. Looking back I cringe at the photos as I think it looked awful. 22 years later she chooses not to wear earrings.
My DD2 is 3 and there's no way I will be piercing her ears before she can make the informed decision herself.

I recently found out I have a genetic medical condition yet my two younger children are not allowed to be tested for it. The doctor told me they need to be old enough to give informed consent to have the test. I find it bizarre that I could take my 3 year old to have her ears pierced but I cannot have her tested for a medical condition that, if it is found that she has it also, she could have treatment to prevent it progressing and damaging her health.

Yes. To young to choose.

If you pierced my ears without my consent, I would consider it assault.
Taking a child to a park can hardly be considered assault, can it?

I agree that indoctrinating your child with religion is similar. I think that it is equally immoral. What a good point you made. So I guess you're forcing two things on your child then.

I also think babies with little earrings look very attractive

So, do babies with natural ears look less attractive?

Sometimes it's a cultural thing... in Spain some babies get their ears pierced at the hospital before they come home.

There are good reasons for infant circumcision of boys. Circumcised boys are less likely to contract venerial diseases and HIV. Their wives and long term female partners are less likely to have cervical cancer. I had a great uncle who died of syphilic paresis after WWI, so I do come with my own prejudice on the subject.

It's rank of course.
But how many of these damn threads must we have.