To think pierced ears on a baby look horrible.

[Tealady1983]

So on fb tonight and a old school friend had pictures of her 3month ish baby with her ears pierced am I the only one that think this looks awful and that it's a bit cruel?

You can dress it up as you like but it's a fundamental violation of another persons right to choose an invasive procedure for absolutely no recognisable benefits. Whatsoever.

^ This - (from Koala)

andFWIW I think that babies are lovely as they are and don't need jewellery of any kind to enhance that and I don't think earrings on a baby are an enhancement anyway. It jars.

^^ this (from WowFudge)

FunLoving yes we are definatly in the same wave length.

All my sympathies and care to the children whose parents feel it's their God given right to choose to inflict in them a proceedure that causes pain for absolutely no benefit to them whatsoever.

But it doesn't jar to all cultures. It may jar to you which is fine but once again words like rough etc awful

You can dress it up as you like but it's a fundamental violation of another persons right to choose an invasive procedure for absolutely no recognisable benefits. Whatsoever.

I agree with this too.

While as a parent I get final say in what I think is best for my child I do think kids have a right to a view. Of course a 4 month old can't express her view, which is why you wait until she can when it is something unnecessary is being done to her body.

To do something for the sole reason that you think it's pretty, especially when it inflicts some pain on your precious baby, is strange.

Really? Inflicting unnecessary pain and suffering on a child incapable of giving informed consent just because its what you want? And you think a judge wouldn't recognise this?

Considering it's legal, no a judge would not recognize it. Even a lawyer wanting to swindle a person out of their money wouldn't take the case for fear of ruining his career. I think you might want to go ahead and read up a bit on law.

I hope victims of FGM aren't reading either. I'd be really fucking insulted if someone compared something like that to an earring that people get everyday with no ill effects to them or their health.

Here, I'll offer you a choice of a grip or pearls to clutch.

Princess can I fetch you any food or drink to keep you going?

I've not seen a thread on this subject for ages

I haven't pierced my DD's ears, and will do my best to discourage her from having them done if she expresses a desire to have them done.

I had mine done as a child and they got horribly infected, I had them done again as a young adult (1980s) when multiple piercing was fashionable - they got horribly infected.

I only wear earrings now because the holes are there, I never match jewellery with them, they are useless holes in my ears.

Definitely yanbu - it's awful! Child should be old enough to have asked to have it done!

Go to South America, you won't find a baby girl without piercings there.

Yes, but you could say that about many things and many countries. It doesn't mean they are "right" or that everyone has to like it.

I wonder why people don't take their baby boys to be pierced?

Because the boys are beig circumcised Owl

I don't give a tiny fuck how it looks, it's cruel and I hate it. When they're old enough to choose, fine.

Princess.
I have Hons degree in Law from a Russell University.
I specialised in Law and Medical Ethics in my final year, which involved writing an extended dissertation on the law and informed consent. This included children and incapacity to give informed consent.

It's like meat eaters who get hysterical about eating dog or horse.
It's like anti FGM protesters who think that piercing a baby's ears is ok.
Double standards.

Not the only person, op no.

I often wonder why it is acceptable to cause such pain & leave a permanent marker on them, in the name of 'looking pretty' 'fashion' < insert reason> etc, but we are not allowed to smack them in the name of discipline.

never understood that.

I don't normally comment but am reading this thread with stitches in my left ear after having plastic surgery last week to repair my ear which effectively ripped in two, due to earrings.
Mine were pierced at 5, I still remember the day ( and the pain ) and I used to fiddle with my ears ( mostly the left ) when I was a child, this weakened over the years and two years ago whilst washing my hair, the lobe ripped and I was left with my ear lobe sliced in two.
My dd is 3 and won't be getting hers pierced unless she asks to when she's older, haven't thought about an age yet but as someone who can't even keep a hair clip in without messing with it, pierced ears for now are a no.

Yeah, it is an interesting discussion (and in my case to wind down before bed)

Goodnight then, Princess [ sleepyhead smiley ].

Thanks usual - that's a big help with my baby-piercing bingo

Usualsuspectt, I am relieved someone came along with the 'common and chavvy' argument! the best funlovinbunster could do was likening it to FGM. We need to ramp this up a bit, because I am going to go to bed and we haven't had the full house yet!

Fideliney, I offer you 'barbaric'.

I'm working on a little rant about burberry check and shell suits Bra but i'm sleepy and i'll need a little longer to finesse it

I agee with usual. When I saw what this thread was about, my first thought was Jeremy Kyle. I bet all many of his 'clients' have babies with pierced ears and earrings. They look absolutely dreadful on babies.

Why mutilate their bodies. That's what the parents are doing.

I've been watching All Creatures Great and Small and saw James Herriot putting a ring through a bull's nose with a lot of wrenching to get it into place. It's downright cruel especially as the babies don't ask for their ears t be pierced.

Ooo nice Koala nice. One more for a full house