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To be quite upset by this ... death by careless driving

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Justnotimaginitive · 23/06/2014 16:08

Just over a yr ago someone I know was run over and killed whilst doing his job which is a Lolly pop man.

The person driving the car said they couldn't see because the sun was in their eyes.
They drove for 220 metres which is approximately 30.seconds when they couldn't see, this was not momentary blindness by the sun btw 220 metres is quite far.

So I think this is careless driving, however a lot people seem to think.because she she has to live with this for the rest of her live that is enough and she isn't quilty.

As it happends the case has been dropped due to 2 discharged jury's who couldn't agree either.
I was at the hearings I heard the evidence and still think.she is guilty.

I personally think if it had been a child, pregnant woman she had hit, or infact if she had been a 21 yr old man then she would have been found guilty. Am I unreasonable for thinking this ?

Please be gentle this is quite close to.my heart he was an amazing person and missed so much.

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TheFairyCaravan · 23/06/2014 20:22

Who said she couldn't see for 30 secs? She might've been driving down that road for 30 secs, but the position of the sun might have altered, she might have altered her driving position or as the police said in this report Mr Elsmore's jacket would have blended in with sun and it "would have been very difficult to pick him out."

I feel desperately sorry for Mr Elsmore's family and friends, but I do,also, have some sympathy for the driver. I doubt it is as clear cut as it is being made out on here if 2 juries failed to reach a verdict and the CPS couldn't provide any more evidence for a further trial.

gordyslovesheep · 23/06/2014 20:27

I feel desperately sorry for Mr Elsmore's family and friends, but I do,also, have some sympathy for the driver. I doubt it is as clear cut as it is being made out on here if 2 juries failed to reach a verdict and the CPS couldn't provide any more evidence for a further trial

this - it's terribly tragic but I think inviting people to condemn a woman two juries, in full possession of the facts, couldn't agree was guilty is a bit much

Justnotimaginitive · 23/06/2014 22:21

Thank you for all your comments.

It was said in court she was traveling between 24-28 mph and it was approx 30 seconds she could not see for. The police went out themselves so If it was less time then fair enough but even 20 seconds is to long if you cannot see as far as I am concerned. If you are blinded by the sun then you stop or slow down you don't just carry on and hope that there's nothing in your way.

I know she did not go out to kill him but I still think she was careless for driving when she could not see and I am not convinced that she is 'paying for it everyday ', I agree she has probably rationalised it away and really believes it wasn't her fault of course I don't know that for sure but I agree with PP.

I'm just so sad, Ray was a wonderful person and he did not deserve to die that way x

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