Ive Just shopped someone for benefit fraud, do I deserve to burn in hell.

[Gulitladen]

I feel quite bad.

This person is an acquaintance, She was a single parent for a few months, then she met someone who pretty much moved in, he was paying her bills for her and moved in properly earlier this year.

She has always worked full time with a salary of around 20k.

She seems to have an awful lot of money, and, as a single parent myself, I couldnt quite work it out. However, I have seen her tax credits renewal form as she didnt understand something and asked me to have a look for her, and shes claiming to be a lone parent, working 16.3 hours a week, earning 12k a year less than she actually is.

She is also claiming housing benefit as a single parent.

So, I have completed the DWP form and sent it off. I couldnt help it, it makes me see red.

But I now feel terrible.

I think those claiming benefits are living pretty close to the wire actually. Perhaps the woman does have the partner living with her but she doesn't think it'll be for long. Perhaps she is having him stay.doing him a favour whilst he sorts his circumstances out.
Unless you have been through it you can't imagine how much difficulty the paperwork, the backdated money reclaimed and the time it takes to be reassessed impact you. For the sake of him living with her for a couple of months she might be risking it.
I started work last year and HB decided last month I was being paid more than I originally told them. They now pay much less so I have to budget for more rent PLUS they also take back a large chunk because of my overpayment. Which means I am hundreds of pounds worse off suddenly.
But the worse thing is they are wrong. My wage hasn't changed since I started work. I am still waiting to be reassessed but I still have to pay the incorrect amount ( out of the wages they have overestimated) otherwise I get into arrears.
The point is the system will eat her alive. In some ways it's better it's out in the open sooner rather than later but seriously op AI hope you know what you've done.

I don't think any of those who have objections to the way the OP behaved said fraud was ok did they?

Whilst I don't agree with what she has done I think you have only acted out of jealousy . because she is getting away with it and having anything she wants whilst you don't .

soz, but you are wrong.

i did not feel great about it, i still dont and i should imagine ill have a few sleeplessnights about it, because its not nice.

Its an uncomftable feeling, but i still think its the right one, and if i hadnt dont anything it would have also played on my mind quite a bit.

but go on, paint me how you want, this is the internet afterall.

So you're back to feeling guilty?

Why are you still having a dig usual?

If this thread winds you up so much and you hate the fact that it has reached 500 posts then leave. Your comments are adding nothing to the thread you are simply trying to goad the OP and get a rise.

OP would ignore those who are simply trying to make the thread so bad it is deleted. Instead only engage with those who can have a grownup debate regarding the rights/wrongs of reporting suspected benefit fraud.

So, some of you think ive acted out of jealously.

can i ask under what motivation it would be deemed to be ok, in your eyes?

because, thats just nuts

Thank you Devere

there would be a lot less than 500 posts if the goady ones trying to start ww3, stopped :)

The thing is, you might be wrong about what she's earned, and that will be easy for them to check, but if she is claiming as a single parent when living with a partner, that's really not on. Too many people take the piss with that, and too many men move in with a woman who has children without being prepared to take on a parental role for those children, which includes paying for them.

If you want to not be responsible financially for children in the house, then just date and not live together until there's no children in the house. Generally these woman feel they can't ask him to give them money for the DCs, so they lie about being alone.

I think we have slightly different perceptions as to who the goady ones are, OP.

high fives usual

I think you have acted out of a background of welfare hating socialist jealousy....

I hate you having the handbag, its not fair, - but I would have ten if I could.

Whats going to make you happy? This woman's partner dumping her, and a nasty big tax bill, perhaps the father of her child isn't paying maintenance....she looses the roof over her head?

Never said you couldn't post usual I said IF this thread winds you up then leave.

Nice come back by the way. That has really got to me and upset me. In fact I think t is the wittiest come back I have ever had.

mary

Many women think they have met the one move them in, and they are gone shortly after.

I wouldnt shop someone for it..

Is it worth pointing out again that the fact that he lives with her is irrelevant when working out whether she's counted as a single parent or not. Or would I just be wasting my time...

I think reporting someone because you are jealous is vile.

Sleepless nights?

Yeah, course you will.

yes loon, we do.

But seeing as its about a 50/50 split, i cant see why you are assuming you are in the right.

mary- I agree, if it were just one thing, I probably wouldn't have done anything, but it was that there were so many false claims, that it was too much to do nothing.

And yes, i understand what a total pain it is to have to ring up and make changes, prove this, send it that, its awful. I hate having to do it myself, however, its one of those things you just have to do when you are having a bit of support from the state. Otherwise, well everyone would be at it, wouldnt they.

• revealall Mon 23-Jun-14 21:11:24

Very 1984 - the system will eat her alive, the single mum. But the system and the anger at the huge corporate tax avoiders carries on.

Boudica that's so sad you must be going crazy inside, how do you cope not knowing? You sound so brave saving and being practical.

How am i a benefits hating socalist?

IM A SINGLE WORKING PARENT WHO CLAIMS BENEFITS MYSELF.

I dont know how many times I have to keep repeating that.

I dont give a fuck about how many handbags she has, but i DO care that shes lying and claiming money that she is not entitled to. she could spend it however she wants, its still wrong.

Really horrible to think that this lady, may be thinking her life is back on track...happy home again, but oh no...someone hated her for having too many handbags....and the vicious wheels are in motion now...ready to bring her down and smash her.

HMRC will already know what she is earning. All of these organisations data match. OP is wasting time and emotions on this.

HMRC will already know what she is earning. All of these organisations data match. OP is wasting her time and emotions on this.