Ive Just shopped someone for benefit fraud, do I deserve to burn in hell.

[Gulitladen]

I feel quite bad.

This person is an acquaintance, She was a single parent for a few months, then she met someone who pretty much moved in, he was paying her bills for her and moved in properly earlier this year.

She has always worked full time with a salary of around 20k.

She seems to have an awful lot of money, and, as a single parent myself, I couldnt quite work it out. However, I have seen her tax credits renewal form as she didnt understand something and asked me to have a look for her, and shes claiming to be a lone parent, working 16.3 hours a week, earning 12k a year less than she actually is.

She is also claiming housing benefit as a single parent.

So, I have completed the DWP form and sent it off. I couldnt help it, it makes me see red.

But I now feel terrible.

And those in no need of benefits, generally don't get them, along with a vast swathe of people who do need them but get fucked up the arse by ATOS.

Take your attitude and stick it somewhere unsavoury

That's generous, Kirjava, the way I read her post came across as as soon as she's popped that baby out, she'll be back at work earning.

Good luck with that

Very well said Susyb30

And all of you who agree with OP are just as bitter and twisted as she is.

You all assume my life is rosy, the fact my child has a very high chance of being born with a genetic disorder due to my chromosomal translocation may well mean I myself end up caring for a disabled child. Such is life, you deal with it.

I will do the best I can to provide for my own child best I can should that happen. Personally I wouldn't turn to not working if I could, not with my mental health issues, I would have to continue to have as much normality as I could. However should I need to give up work to care for my disabled offspring then I will have to, I'll have no choice. At which point I expect the system I have paid thousands in to, to support me as genuine need.

I don't require a medal, I don't require anything. Like I said it's my choice not to get stuck in a benefits trap if I can.

Fair enough, Boudica. But there are plenty on MN who would berate you for bringing a disabled child into the world and then not having saved up the £100,000s in order not to be a burden. I have seen it before on here.

I hope things turn out well.

'Is this a bunfight I see before me?' Believe it or not, we hate zapping posts, so pretty please keep it polite

Wow the mean girls ganging up

Boudica I didn't read your post as benefits bashing. You didn't need to claim so you haven't. Some posters have chosen to interpret your post to fit with need to pick on you. Leave them to it they are making themselves look bad.

I claimed for 4 years after working solid for 18 years. I only intended to take a break but ended up claim in what I was entitled to as a lone parent. IS until my youngest was 5. When she turned 4 I started job hunting and it took me 18 month to find a job, the sort of job 10 years ago you could walk in and out of with ease. The last 8 months on JSA were the most depressing monthmonths of my life, wanting to work but being unable to get a job. Jumping through hoops at the jobcentre, going on courses with people in their 50th who hadn't worked a day in their life and whilst cv writing couldn't put a single job on their cv. Doing courses where 4 people out of a class of 16 would turn up. Doing European social fund courses which were designed for people who had never worked in a group of mixed ability meaning there were people who couldn't read or wrire, had never even switched on a pc to people who had been in management so the courses some people could probably complete in a day whilst others it took a week. The courses word cost 200 In childcare and 40 in bus fares. The whole system just doesn't work imo. I eventually found a job on my own and the jobcentre told me not to take it due to the hours. I am over £170 a week better off working part time than what I was on Income support but ironically am claiming more benefits now than what I was not working.

Ignore typos as on phone

I really don't get why people think the OP is in the wrong! She is obviously doing things all above board,but the "acquaintance" is not. That is infuriating .

When her boyfriend moved in she should have told tax credits...therefore she is claiming fraudulently, quite apart from whether or not she's only do in 16 and a half (? can't quite remember) hours a week.

I left it several months before telling tax credits my eldest son was no longer in education,and ended up repaying £1000...that was my mistake,and it meant we struggled for a bit,but I shouldn't have left it so long.However,I shopped myself for that!

Why should someone get away with claiming something they're not entitled to when everyone else follows the rules? That's not jealousy,it's annoyance,when you're struggling yourself,but doing things the right way.

I think the OP was right to do what she did,

i would like to state this was not a slur on anyone who claims anythng they are entitled to.

FGS, i claim.

I wouldnt be slinging mud in my own direction.

People are not reading and are just throwing shit around for the sake of it now.

Indeed.

You started it.

If you are a long time poster as you claim to be, you know how these threads always go.

What did you expect?

Unfortunately I haven't saved the thousands needed for his possible care, but I have saved enough for his funeral should he need one. My baby boy could live for 6 hours, 6days or 60years. We never know what the future hold for us, and when we're down and out that's when we all need the utmost support.

I justdon't think it's fair, that the minority that 1% through deceit and lies ruin the support and safety net for so many others.

I'm not sure really what you are going on about but I do believe that to an extent HMRC Income Tax and HMRC Tac Credits have merged so your 'person's' (can hardly say friend now can we?) income declarations will be systematically compared.

I'm not going to read all 19 pages of this but is the DWP form you originally mentioned a special fraud reporting form? Or are you actually saying you filled in her Tax Credit forms for her? Either way you should have advised her about the correct figures to declare.

I say this as a hard-working single mother myself - no help from family, friends or acquaintances - and yes, I do get frustrated that the actual single parent/mother numerical statistics are inflated by the 'not really single' Brigade. BUT, unless you pointed out where she is (potentially) acting illegally YABU for reporting her first.

I don't think she did start it for a bun fight. Not once has the OP resorted to name calling or swearing. It is others that have chosen to through the buns. If they cannot control themselves then that is not down to the OP.

Besides every topic/subject on here is a potential bun fight. It just takes one poster to throw the first bun and that isn't always the OP.

No one thinks that fraudulently claiming benefits is ok, do they?

So it's really whether someone should do something about it or not.

I think the system should be set up so someone being investigated continues receiving benefits until they've been found to be fraudulent.

But I also think people should report suspected fraud. A lot is never investigated, I'm sure even less is found to be fraud.

Of course this wouldn't directly feed back to increased benefits for others, just like paying taxes doesn't directly feed back into your children's schools but there is no other way of cutting it - there is more money in the pot and it doesn't directly feed back into tax cuts either.

Yes she has actually, if you read back.

usualsuspectt you may be right, and there are definitely some subjects that will get people all het up, but lots of people have posted thoughtful points and their own experiences on here, so it's not just Bunfight at the OK Quarrel

I didn't manage to save enough money for my DD's funeral.
I had to claim the grant and rely on the kindness of the funeral directors.

So I guess that means I didn't plan very well.

She can't fiddle tax credits can she?

They check your earnings?

Long enough usual.

There is always a judgey pram thread. Never ends well but there is at least one a week.
Parking threads same.
There are many topics that can and do lead to heated differences of opinion and if MNHQ banned them there would be empty boards.
I have seen many a goady thread posted by long time members, I see this thread no as no different.