Ive Just shopped someone for benefit fraud, do I deserve to burn in hell.

[Gulitladen]

I feel quite bad.

This person is an acquaintance, She was a single parent for a few months, then she met someone who pretty much moved in, he was paying her bills for her and moved in properly earlier this year.

She has always worked full time with a salary of around 20k.

She seems to have an awful lot of money, and, as a single parent myself, I couldnt quite work it out. However, I have seen her tax credits renewal form as she didnt understand something and asked me to have a look for her, and shes claiming to be a lone parent, working 16.3 hours a week, earning 12k a year less than she actually is.

She is also claiming housing benefit as a single parent.

So, I have completed the DWP form and sent it off. I couldnt help it, it makes me see red.

But I now feel terrible.

This thread is hilarious, people defending possible criminal behaviour.

We all know you should claim everything you possibly can to squeeze the system dry, never make an effort to secure your own income and pay your own way in life through working 40 plus hours a week paying tax and NI, paying for the roof over your head on not relying on the system to house you, and once youve done all that then for good measure lie to get more ill gotten gains!

It's the perfect solution for an easy life. Let every hard working fucker pay for you and then steal off them too :)

Gulitladen Troll? you asked a question I answered it, but your story of events just keep on changing like other posters have said... There are too many holes, you don't know the woman in question but you seem to know her income and other information.. Hmm

I didn't say it wasn't genuine.

My point was it is cowardly that the OP doesn't want her usual name associated with this - not that I believe she is a troll.

I would have thought if someone was going to report someone for fraud it would be fraud of a life changing amount of money.

No I think it's for when someone else appears to be a little happier than you and you just can't stand it any longer ;)

Please ell me why I need to get a grip?

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I don't know how you can sleep at night.
If the person was being fraudulent she would be found out sooner or later.
What happens if she is found guilty and her kids taken into care, it happens you know.

Spot on, Piano.

Mumsnet is funny, there's a raft of people who think fraud is fine but trying to get on in life by making money honestly through BTL is the devils work.

Almost believed you till you mentioned the school gates ...

I dont know what her partner earns, I have never claimed to know what he earns, I dont need to know what he earns to report him as living there while she is claiming as a lone parent.

I know he does work, and I know where his place of work is, and that he works full time, and again, that he lives with her while she is claiming lone parent benefits.

Shes a work friend of a friend, our children go to the same school. She is not my friend. I dont see why thats so hard to understand.

But again, you are just being goady and trying to pick holes in me to suit your own plan/ argument.

Thats fine, im just going to rob a bank to the tune of 6k. Its not that much, so it wont be on the news and I know im pretty safe as noone will report me as noone likes a grass :)

No I think it's for when someone else appears to be a little happier than you and you just can't stand it any longer ;)

That's why people need to learn to control their emotions and find happiness.

So how do you know she has £38k coming in then? She only earns £20k, where's the other £18k coming from?

I think you were right to report and you are right to not tell her it was you (what would the point of that be).

Benefit frauds are in the wrong not the people who report them. She may well not have been fraudulent but it is fine to report your suspicions.

I don't think the OP was motivated by spite but of course it would be galling if you believed others were cheating the system and seemingly being rewarded.

I do think though that benefits should still be paid out until fraud had been proved - I really very strongly feel that.

So if you report someone who you suspect of benefit fraud your children will be bullied and have no friends, no-one will speak to you at the school playground and who knows what else terrible things will happen to your family.

If I suspected someone of fraud I would report them and OP is doing what she believes is right.

Darkest has a point...you have no way of knowing what goes on in her house. Unless you have installed cameras, you can't know. Very mean spirited indeed, and as you had a chance to ask her, very sly of you. She will know it was you.

Haha! Pit calling kettle black OP?

Also, you'd think you'd reported an armed robber to crime watch - perlease!
I think your dodgy motives negate any moral high ground you are trying to imply you have.

the 18k is roughly the wage of his job in this area. I know what he does. Its not hard to make a rough guess.

anyway, you are making me late for my bank robbing.

Pot calling kettle black. That was to OP calling someone goady.

D0oinMeCleanin

She knows all this because she's just a friend of a friend..

And to be honest I didn't think it was common for people to start waving around forms in public asking for help to fill it in.. or casually speaking about their earnings/benefits

Boudicca here's hoping you never need that system that you sneer at me for being reliant on, eh?

I'd hate to see what that would do to you.

Or would it be alright then?

But how much of that does he contribute to the running of the household and the children? Has he given up his own place or is he still paying for that?

I know she lives with him, They are a couple. They were boyfriend and girlfriend and then he moved in.

I dont need to guess that, its a fact.

the 18k is roughly the wage of his job in this area. I know what he does. Its not hard to make a rough guess.

So you acknowledge you have been stating supposition as facts then.

Don't get wound up OP, you've done the right thing and anyone who says otherwise is only being contrary. They don't genuinely disagree with you.

They are trying to scare you by saying you will be found out. Course you won't be, I wasn't. It's in the dwps best interest to have the public act as informants and they won't shaft them cos it would soon get around and people would stop doing it.

The person who says the thief will have their children taken into care has really shown them self up as an out and out liar.