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Wibu to ask for a reduction in rent so I can buy 'stuff' due to mould damage (sorry, long!)

165 replies

extremepie · 23/06/2014 09:48

I'm fully prepared to accept I may BU, just thought I'd gather some opinions.

I live in a flat that was recently renovated after being left empty for 18 months. When I moved in the landlady told me that because it had been empty for so long and with all the wet weather we had over the winter it was likely we might have a lot of moisture in the walls etc so might expect some damp issues, but that as the weather warmed up and if we were good about keeping windows open, ventilation etc it should be fine.

We've been living here about 4 months now and the damp problem is pretty bad - in my bedroom there will be pools of water on the windowsill and floor from the condensation, which doesn't seem to improve much whether I keep the windows open or not. The only time it does improve is when I have the window open constantly which, being a ground floor flat, I can't really do!

There are areas of the hallway near the bathroom where there is horrible, furry black mould growing on the walls - this also grows on the wall in my bedroom, on the windowsill in the kitchen, the living room and the kids bedrooms. Ds's bedroom has a big built in cupboard thing in his room and it grows in there too. It grows on the wall behind the sofa and on the back of the sofa itself, it grows on my tv unit and the legs of my table and chairs. It has even grown on the underside of Ds's mattress! It is everywhere!

When the flat was being renovated the landlady said I could choose my own paint for the walls, so I did and painted virtually the whole flat myself. She also let me choose the colours of carpet so I could make it feel like my own (she is lovely :) ). However, since this mould is constantly growing on the walls I have had to scrub it and bleach it so many times that every single room I took considerable expense and time to paint has now got damaged paintwork and in some of the rooms the carpets have marks on from the mould which I cant seem to remove :(

I do feel like it may be partially my fault as I have a tumble dryer, but I have no way to vent it, where the cupboard is for the dryer there is no way to access a window to vent it with a tube, the radiators are electric so I cant dry anything on them and I have no outside space at all (garden, balcony etc) to dry things so I have to use a tumble dryer.

Wibu to ask if I could have a reduction in the rent temporarily to buy a condenser for my tumble dryer and buy new paint to repaint the walls? The only room which is pretty much unscathed by the mould is Ds2's room because I indadvertedly painted his room with bathroom paint (I liked the colour :D), which has an anti mould thing in it so despite his bedroom being right next to Ds's, his room has no mould and Ds2's does. Ideally I'd like to replace Ds's mattress too as I really don't want him sleeping on a mouldy mattress!

I know it isn't her fault about the mould but I'm just getting so fed up with it now, I've gone through bottles and bottles of anti mould sprays and cleaners, keep the windows open as much as I can but it still just grows back within a few weeks!

OP posts:
WooWooOwl · 23/06/2014 09:53

Have you discussed the on going problem with her and allowed her the chance to come up with a way of solving it? Does she know that you're using a tumble drier without ventilation?

Tbh, if you are using a tumble drier without ventilating it, I think you'd be incredibly cheeky to expect a reduction in rent due to the mould.

If I found out that my tenant had been doing that I would not be renewing their contract.

TheWickerWoman · 23/06/2014 09:57

You need to stop using the tumble dryer completely!

If it still persists it needs sorting ASAP, it's so dangerous. We had this at our house, we eventually needed the whole house re-rendering and a new damp course.

extremepie · 23/06/2014 10:01

But how can I dry my clothes without a tumbledryer! There really is no way for me to vent it, the pipe would have to be about 5 metres long and go through several walls :/

She does know I'm using the tumbledryer without a vent but just suggested I open the windows more, the bathroom (closest room) has a tiny extractor fan but it makes virtually no difference :(

OP posts:
JenniferJo · 23/06/2014 10:02

The tumble drier is causing it, get one with a condenser.

whois · 23/06/2014 10:03

You buy a condenser tumble dryer just like everyone else with no venting access! Sheesh you've been pretty stupid using a normal tumble dryer and not venting it.

Montybojangles · 23/06/2014 10:06

You can buy a condenser vent box to reduce the condensation from your tumble drier effecting the flat. You also probably should get a decent dehumidifier. They aren't cheap but do work. Maybe you could share the cost with your landlady.

You need to discuss it and come up with a solution, but you are at least partially responsible for the problem.

TheWickerWoman · 23/06/2014 10:06

Take it to a laundrette, I don't know, it's got to be better than living in damp? That mould is so dangerous.

SingingSoftly · 23/06/2014 10:08

I've had this before in rented accommodation. If the mould is black, then it's condensation, not damp. I don't think the tumble drier makes that much difference - we didn't have one, but we still needed to dry our clothes somewhere. I think it's just the way some houses are built. Not really the landlady's fault, not really yours either as you can't have windows open all the time due to security as you say and also because you would freeze in the winter. You could try a dehumidifier.

Cornettoninja · 23/06/2014 10:09

Is your ll actually aware of the extent of the problem?

Condenser boxes aren't expensive (tumble dryer condenser box), but the fact the problem was there before makes me think it needs properly looking at and sorting.

There's no doubt you will have contributed to the problem using an unvented tumble dryer, but it does sound like it was already an issue.

Your landlady needs to look at getting it properly sorted once and for all, although I presume it won't be very pleasant living through any remedies (I'm thinking those heater things they use when a house has flooded might be good).

expatinscotland · 23/06/2014 10:11

I would serve notice on you as soon as possible if I knew you were using a dryer with no ventilation.

That's just stupid.

CoolCat2014 · 23/06/2014 10:12

Get a condenser tumble dryer and sell your current one to raise cash for it, then get the bleach out and scrub every surface with mould in it. See if you can rent or borrow a dehumidifier for a couple of weeks to hey the moisture out.

We were drying clothes indoors on airers and radiators two winters ago as it rained non stop, everything got covered in mould. As soon as we got a condenser tumble dryer problem was solved. Best £150 I've ever spent.

Seeing as it's the dryer causing the damp, I think it would be unreasonable to ask for a rent reduction.

emms1981 · 23/06/2014 10:15

The last house we lived in was riddled with mould, not helpful op but I just had to move! With 2 young kids and landlords who couldn't care less I had no choise. I don't think a tumble dryer is causing all the issues but prob not helping. They also make a lot of dust, I don't have room for one and in the winter hang my clothes on coat hangers in the bathroom with a small clothes horse that goes over bath for smalls

expatinscotland · 23/06/2014 10:16

The Lakeland heated airer is terrific and far cheaper to run. Flog the dryer and buy one of those.

SolomanDaisy · 23/06/2014 10:16

The mould problem is basically your fault for using a non vented tumble dryer without even leaving the windows open in a flat you knew had a high moisture content. Asking for a rent reduction is beyond taking the piss. Get a condenser and a dehumidifier.

Chippednailvarnish · 23/06/2014 10:17

Tbh, if you are using a tumble drier without ventilating it, I think you'd be incredibly cheeky to expect a reduction in rent due to the mould

She could probably keep your deposit to rectify the damage you have caused too. What do think the rest of the world who don't have tumble dryers do? Stop being so lazy.

TinyTear · 23/06/2014 10:18

I just dry everything in airers... with a good spin most things come out of the washing machine virtually dry anyway!

AgaPanthers · 23/06/2014 10:21

How often do you use the tumble drier? Do you have a washing line?

extremepie · 23/06/2014 10:24

How exactly am I being lazy? I had the tumble dryer from my previous property, I was about 2 months old at the time so I didnt want to get rid of it, and how am I supposed to dry my stuff otherwise in the winter in a property that has no outside space and I cant use the radiators? If i chucked everything on a clothes horse the moisture would still be inside!

The nearest laundrette is about 4 miles away and I dont drive so I cant get the stuff there, the dryer is not on constantly its on about 1-2 times a week and I do leave the windows open whenever possible just not 100% of the time.

Fair enough, IWBU to ask for rent reduction - I didnt realise the condenser boxes were so cheap, have bought one so hopefully that will help.

No need to be so fucking rude Chipped!

OP posts:
Chippednailvarnish · 23/06/2014 10:29

I'm not "fucking rude" you are causing the damage to your landlord's property and then wanting her to foot the bill.

Not everyone has a tumble dryer and they manage, you could do any number things to resolve the issue without trying to past the cost on to her.

TheWickerWoman · 23/06/2014 10:31

I think it sounds like you have an underlying damp problem anyway but the dryers aggravated it . I think if you can temporarily stop using the dryer just to find out how much it's adding to the problem then go from there.

Xcountry · 23/06/2014 10:32

Talk to her, she may not be unreasonable, slightly different to your situation but our tenant had damp and was going to get some damp proof wall lacquer. I couldn't give him a reduction in rent but I asked him to buy it, keep the receipt and give me it so I could reimburse him. Worked out fine that way.

LaurieFairyCake · 23/06/2014 10:33

Move the tumble dryer to a room where you can hang the hose out the window - even if it's a bedroom or living room.

I have one of those boxes to vent into and it doesn't work at all.

RumPunch · 23/06/2014 10:35

I just have to dry stuff indoors. Mostly hang stuff on coat hangers on doors, or use a clothes horse. Keep the windows open as much as possible! I had horrible mould at my old place so feel you pain!

VivaLeBeaver · 23/06/2014 10:37

I'm a landlord and I wouldn't be renewing your lease if you'd vented a tumble dryer into the house. I certainly wouldn't be giving you any money.

Damnautocorrect · 23/06/2014 10:40

I feel your pain but I only dry outside or the laundrette as my house is a big mould fest there's no way I'd run a dryer inside or dry my washing inside. I've had to get rid of a good few hundred pounds worth of toys, and also three or four items of furniture because of mould. I've not asked my LL for that even though I air it for about an hour a day, dry outside and have little dehumidifiers in every room.
I don't think you can ask anything when your making it hundred times worse.