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I'm not am I? Please tell me in not and help me grow a backbone

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Hurr1cane · 16/06/2014 10:25

Some of you might have seen me post about this before my name change.

I have a severely autistic little boy who also has an array of health problems and other disabilities.

Anyway the man who lives next door, he's 93, this is relevant to the post as he hasn't always been this horrible so I'm thinking it may be related to a condition, which makes me feel worse.

Anyway he is really horrible, he bangs on the wall if I hang a photo up at 12 in the afternoon (so the hammering may have been 30 seconds on my part, lasted 30 minutes on his) he leans over the fence threatening to hit my little boy and any of his friends that I look after if any of them is having a crises. My child and his friends are by far the quietest on my street, I think he does this because he thinks he can smack the disability out of them Hmm

Had him intercepting me when I was trying to leave my house every day for a year over the fence, a panel blew down, I wanted to replace the panel, he wanted the entire fence replacing so I bought the panel, he wouldn't let me put it in, eventually his son came round and put it in and all that stopped.

He has threatened to take me to court because he found a spoon in his garden and thought my son had put it there (it wasn't my spoon)

He leans over the fence and shouts at me for pulling my weeds out the wrong way and says that it'll affect his garden. (I'm not sure the right way of pulling weeds but never mind)

He has leant over the fence and shouted at and tried to hit my son when he was playing on his swing, scaring him to death and causing a seizure.

This is to name a few things.

Anyway I spoke to a friend about it who said to write down all the things he does from now on, with dates, and if he starts harassing me again to just tell him I've taken legal advice and to put anything he wants to say in writing.

Anyway, all was quiet for a time (I have been avoiding the garden though and running to my car) until today when I had to go out to mow the lawn and do some weeding.

He leant over the fence and said "hurricane, a minute" I hate confrontation and just said "I can't" he then said "just a minute" I said "I can't Sam I'm not allowed, just put it in writing" (not at all what I was told to say really but u felt really sorry for him and just wanted him to stop without confrontation)

He then said "two panels need replacing" (I've had a look and they're all fine) so I just said "look I can't talk to you, I'm not allowed, please just put it in writing if it's urgent"
He then laughed and started muttering to himself but walked inside.

It's going to start all over again isn't it? He doesn't take me seriously because I'm a young girl on my own. He's said as much in the past. But I feel really nasty ignoring him like that.

But on the other hand I know I have a duty of care to my little boy and I need to keep him safe.

Please tell me I'm haven't just been a massive bitch to someone with problems of his own Hmm

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Mrsjayy · 16/06/2014 11:08

Right if you are a council tennant phone your housing officer and tell them about the harassment they can help you too,

SaucyJack · 16/06/2014 11:12

YANBU. Report him to the police/adult services. If he does have dementia that's causing him to behave aggressively then you'll be doing him a favour anyway as drawing attention to it may get him the help he needs.

And if he is just a cunt- well fuck him.

UsedtobeFeckless · 16/06/2014 11:18

This really isn't on - He might have the beginings of dementia - which does make people more aggressive sometimes - or just be a bully, but you and your son shouldn't have to suffer in silence. Ring 101 as suggested up-thread and tell them what's going on. Your friend was right about logging all your interactions with him, too.

UsedtobeFeckless · 16/06/2014 11:19

Bugger, cross posted with SaucyJack! Sorry!

HenI5 · 16/06/2014 12:31

I've never heard of that surgery thing before but I will look into it, thank you

Hurr1cane if you check our your local police force's website they should have a section which tells you where you PCSO will be to meet the public. They usually hold meetings regularly on a drop-in basis, either at a local hall, railway station or some other neutral place.

It's hard to say if your neighbour just has an unpleasant personality or a medical condition which might be making things worse, but try practising calm assertiveness. It's not rude or unkind to be assertive, you just need to tell him how it is. Try out some short phrases that become your stock in trade. You'd be setting him a boundary over which he needs to know that he cannot cross with you - it obviously seemed to work with his other neighbour, but I don't think you need to resort to shouting at him, not least because you sound like the kind of person who'd upset herself by doing that.

Hurr1cane · 16/06/2014 12:54

I'll check out all the website stuff when I'm waiting on the school run thanks everyone for their advice. He hasn't yet posted anything so maybe telling him I wasn't allowed to talk worked? I don't know.

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bitsnbobs14 · 16/06/2014 13:16

Your priority is your son, not the fellow next door.
You haven't been rude, don't worry.
Hope the situation resolves.

TimeForAnotherNameChange · 16/06/2014 13:59

If he's capable of not antagonising the chap on the other side after receiving a good tongue lashing, then he's simply a bully regradless of his age or level of infirmity. So you have a couple of choices - continue documenting all his threats and intimidations, especially regarding your son; continue avoiding him; or also loosing your rag back with him. Not necessarily a choice I'd make, but it's open to you.

RiverTam · 16/06/2014 14:04

you aren't being U at all, OP.

If he isn't just a horrible man it sounds like he could have dementia. Second getting in touch with SS should it get worse.

Bit stalkerish but could you google the son, see if he's on FB or anything and get in touch?

Aeroflotgirl · 16/06/2014 15:33

He sounds like he might have dementia or Alzeimers. Definitely keep a log of all incidents and contact the Police. Be firm with him, and does his son visit? Mabey see if you can contact him to voice your concerns or ss.

Eatriskier · 16/06/2014 15:54

We had similar issues with one of our neighbours. She wasn't quite as elderly but was pulling the same crap with both sets of neighbours and clearly something wasn't right with her. Both sets of neighbours were threatened with violence by her and her family and subsequently but separately we called the police. The police were well aware there was something not right too and pushed the family. Turned out she had brain cancer (undiagnosed at the time of police involvement) and has subsequently died.

Her disgusting family still have not apologised for their actions, even in a 'we had to believe our mum' kind of way and are still there but the paranoid rantings and all the issues stopped with her requiring full time care by a family member (who never heard/saw any of the so called problems us neighbours were apparently creating).

If there's any likelihood he may be ill and his family are burying their head in the sand about it, the pcsos may be able to help push them in the right direction.

NewtRipley · 16/06/2014 16:01

He probably does have dementia

NorksEnormous · 16/06/2014 16:07

I agree he probably has dementia, however that doesn't mean he can act like this. Rather than go to the police though I think I would attempt to speak to his son first, then if things don't improve go to the police then.

NewtRipley · 16/06/2014 16:14

I didn't say that. If he does, he needs help, for everyone's sake

NewtRipley · 16/06/2014 16:14

I agree about speaking to the son

zipzap · 16/06/2014 16:18

If he has fixated on the fence as one of his things, it might be worth taking some photos of it so you can prove it is currently in good condition in case he tries to sabotage it in order to force new fence panels being put in Sad

Both MIL and Dmum's partner has been diagnosed with alzheimers and vascular dementia in the last year and it has been upsetting to watch. They both seem to fixate on something that they obsess about, regardless of how true or not it is, and it doesn't matter how many times you tell them the truth of the situation, they say yes yes, but 5 minutes later they're back obsessing again.

Doesn't mean you should have to suffer though - definitely worth keeping a diary and talking to local community police, and maybe his doctor or SS too.

HenI5 · 16/06/2014 17:43

With regards to talking to the police, if you contact your local PCSO their brief covers looking out for vulnerable people in their area and helping with social situations, it's not just about reporting crime. You could put it in terms of being worried about this 90 odd year old neighbour who lives on his own and sometimes seems rather worked up about things, rather than it being a case of reporting him for being verbally aggressive or lashing out (which you can't get to the bottom of anyway)

Hurr1cane · 16/06/2014 18:50

Thanks everyone. I am mainly worried about him. If any random threatened to hit my son I may well have hit them tbh. I'm not a violent person but am extremely protective of him. (I probably wouldn't have hit them actually, I'm a massive wimp but would have sounded off)

My worries are for both of them. My son first obviously, and then the man. I'm worried that if he starts on the wrong person he could well end up getting a slap. The area we live in isn't exactly.... Nice. I've stayed here for so long by keeping myself to myself and being nice to all the children/ having a soft spot for the son of the king of the gangsters round here as he has special needs himself and giving him extra tuition alongside my son. (I'm a teacher)

The person who lived here before me ended up being chased out of the area by my previous next door neighbours, they've moved since but they were always nice to me as I never complained and looked after their children when needed.

My current neighbours on the other side I get on with a lot as well. I ignore their yapping dogs and in exchange they pretend they don't hear the night time seizures (my son stays in my room which adjoins to their house, I have no doubt they here them as they can get very loud and Bangy and when they are bad I panic and have very panicked phone calls to 999)

I love living here and being around people who are nice if you're nice to them. The problem is that if you're not nice to them then some of them are quite liable to be very unpleasant, this is the reason I worry Hmm

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Hurr1cane · 16/06/2014 19:00

These are the fence panels I replaced, the wind blew them down, apart from being painted the whole fence did not need replacing as you can see

I'm not am I? Please tell me in not and help me grow a backbone
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Hurr1cane · 16/06/2014 19:01

These are the two he says need replacing. They're older than the other two and need painting on my side (his side they're painted fine) but other than that they're fine I think

I'm not am I? Please tell me in not and help me grow a backbone
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Hurr1cane · 16/06/2014 19:02

As you can see he can't even see the other two from his side because of all the plants he has growing up them.

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noneofyours · 16/06/2014 19:22

He sounds more like a bully OP. A person with dementia would not remember someone giving them a bollocking and abide by their wishes, they'd forget or get confused. The fact he is capable of moderating himself to some when confronted shows he's nothing more then a shitty person. I expect if you called the police and started really reporting him then after a while he'd either give up or show how much of a shit her is.

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Hurr1cane · 16/06/2014 20:18

Grin Lepa... I have thought 'just wait it out' then shouted at myself for being a mega bitch human Blush

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