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AIBU to want to let the school know?

67 replies

macdoodle · 14/06/2014 18:52

Nightmare at the village fete.
I live in a small village with a small primary school of about 100 pupils, feeding into a very large local secondary school (160 in my DD1's year 7 year group).
Today was the village fete, mostly locals. But large groups of secondary children from other villages and some city areas. My DD1's age and year above mostly.
My daughter's best friend (C) has an older sister (O) with severe autism, her mum had brought her and she had been coping well with the noise and people.
Until........apparantly one of the local year 8 girls, started telling the non local year 8 boys, that O was "special" and hated loud noises/hissing.
At which stage a few boys started hissing and clapping near her, her mum (who is very non confrontational) kept moving away, until poor O had a complete melt down and she had massive difficulty getting her out of the field and home At this stage one of said boys (J) was smirking and waving at her.
When they left, the sister C, who I know very well, was very upset crying and distressed. I comforted her and told her to ignore such pathetic behaviour (from J).
I suggested the group of local year 7 girls (including my daughter and C) leave now, and I left with my younger DD2 who is 6.
As we walked down the road, J came running after us, shouting. I turned round to find a group of perhaps 10 children. J said I had called him a "spotty cunt", and it was disgusting a doctor (I am a local GP) had said this, this was told to him by another non local year 8 girl, who apparantly had heard my elder daughter telling someone this!
All in earshot of my 6 year old. To say I was accosted by a gang of teens shouting would not be an understatement!
Luckily I am no shrinking violet, said of course I had said no such thing, told off the girl who had accused me, and the local girl who seemed to have started to whole thing (I know her mother well). I was very cross and told them their behaviour towards O was absolutely disgusting, I did not appreciate being dragged into their childish games, and I had absolutely not said anything of the sort and did not appreciate being accused of it. I then told them all to go home.
My DD1 is adamant she said nothing of the sort.
Do I (1) ignore (2) tell the 2 parents I know (3) email the school
I am a little suspicious that by accusing me of insulting J, they are hoping to take the heat of their own atrocious behaviour.
O is very very distressed, O's mum is upset, and to make it worse, the secondary school is moving to a shiny new build in october where they will be amalgamated with all the special needs schools. I think the school need to be made aware? AIBU?

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Whathaveiforgottentoday · 14/06/2014 19:44

Schools often get reports about their students from local residents and depending on the incident, definitely do act upon it.
I think because this involves bullying a disabled person, they would be very interested. As long as you worded it 'I thought you would like to know that ..... happened, then it leaves it in the hands of the school to choose whether to deal with it.

SapphireMoon · 14/06/2014 19:44

I would inform the school.
Give them a heads up that there maybe issues to deal with.
Obnoxious, cruel children.

cantbelievethisishppening · 14/06/2014 19:49

If kids are getting it wrong to and from school while in uniform then yes, the school should be aware and intervene if necessary. Where do you draw the line though? Parents should be the ones to deal with this, not the school.

DraggingDownDownDown · 14/06/2014 19:50

CorusKate - I had the same thoughts!! Totally irrelevant to the thread but my ds1 is going to a senior school in Sept with 240 per year group Shock

SapphireMoon · 14/06/2014 19:52

Maybe the parents are part of the problem?
The school is part of the community so I think should be told.
However, I would be beyond livid and ashamed of my eldest ds if he was involved in such harassing behaviour and I was told about it.

Canthisonebeused · 14/06/2014 19:54

I think the relevance of the size of schools is possibly an indication of the anxiety around OPs child moving from a relatively small local village school into a larger school and being exposed further to this type of behaviour. To then become amalgamated with special needs provision.

lljkk · 14/06/2014 19:57

I didn't think 160 was a large yr group.

cantbelievethisishppening · 14/06/2014 19:58

You would hope that the needs of SEN children will have been discussed in relation to amalgamation. I agree with cant. It must be very stressful for mum.

CorusKate · 14/06/2014 20:00

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cantbelievethisishppening · 14/06/2014 20:02

sapphire my thoughts exactly if I found out my DC had been involved in anything like that. It is so depressing that this happens. My daughter is still being tormented by a girl who she had the misfortune of working with on her work experience placement. She was foul. Luckily she only comes across her very rarely but am so tempted to phone the police about it now.

phantomnamechanger · 14/06/2014 20:03

for goodness sake, this is not a simple matter of kids mucking around on the bus or something similar and a curtain twitcher blabbing to the school! bullying a disabled person is a hate crime. were the perpetrators a few years older the parents of the victim could involve the police for harrassment. it is a very serious matter and the children from the social school will be amalgamated with the bullies next year. of course the school need the heads up, so they can nip this vile behaviour in the bud before it goes any further.

cantbelievethisishppening · 14/06/2014 20:13

No one has said it was a simple matter phantom
This type of harassment should involve the parents and the police regardless of age. It is not the responsibility of the school to meter out punishments for incidents that have taken place on a Saturday at a village fete. Just because parents may not care does not mean that the school should therefore be held responsible for punishing these kids. Letting the school know is very different to expecting them to then put in place sanctions.

SolomanDaisy · 14/06/2014 20:20

Do you know J's name/family? If so, I think both his parents and the police need to have a word with him. I would also email the school, not naming names, but naming the year group and explaining what happened. That way they can consider whether they need to do some extra work with them before the schools amalgamate.

Dayshiftdoris · 14/06/2014 20:25

School???

I would be ringing 101....

Do you not see the situation you are in, created by these teenagers...

You ring / email the school Monday... They are dragged in and all solemn faced Sad'sorry sir we didn't know and then that woman called me cunt, I just asked her why and she shouted at me'

Report it to the police today and their parents.

Apart from anything YOU are very vulnerable to having this turned around on you - local GP calling a teenager a cunt... That's a sad face picture in the Daily Fail right there...

Vile vile human beings

Dayshiftdoris · 14/06/2014 20:28

And I am shaking for that poor woman and her daughter. Disgusting that a) it happened and b) the one person who stood up to them was also treated terribly...

Bullying, harassment... Call it what you want but seriously have been witness to this kind of behaviour myself (though no where near as bad) and it was aimed towards my friends children and my son with ASD

I have never felt so ashamed that I share air with such disgusting people....

BarbarianMum · 14/06/2014 20:41

I agree. 101. A policeman calling on dear little J and having a word would make the unacceptableness of his behavior quite clear. I wouldn't worry about his allegation about you either - it was based on hearsay and patently rubbish.

LynetteScavo · 14/06/2014 20:42

I would definitely email the head of the school. In the past I have emailed the head of a school my DC don't go to regarding the behaviour of their pupils outside school, and had a very satisfactory response.

I would also consider phoning 101 and reporting. I think the police would take this seriously.

SapphireMoon · 14/06/2014 20:45

101 for advice and informing does seem a good idea.
Email school too.
Are parents approachable? Maybe if you are local GP and have to deal with parents in another capacity stick to school and 101.
What does Mum of victim think? Horrific experience for her and her children.

macdoodle · 14/06/2014 20:47

I don't "expect" the school to DO anything, but I do think they should know. The action of J especially towards O was really appalling. And confronting and accusing me was pretty intimidating, just because I can deal with it doesnt make it better.
I must admit to being unsure as to the best way to deal with it. Am certain that O's mother will be informing the school and rightly so.

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macdoodle · 14/06/2014 20:49

Yes it is more complicated because some of the children/families involved are my patients.

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cantbelievethisishppening · 14/06/2014 20:58

Mc if you think the school should know then tell them.

Dayshiftdoris · 14/06/2014 21:14

If they are patients then even more reason to get it reported...

I would even be hesitating. If he had been shouting racial slurs would you even be considering your options?

Dayshiftdoris · 14/06/2014 21:15

The alternative is you to nothing and reinforce the idea that he is ok to do that and when he does he can get away with it by intimidating people...

macdoodle · 14/06/2014 21:25

Right, yes of course I cant leave it. I think the whole part about them coming after me and accusing me, muddies the water and turns into a tit-for-tat thing, its all a bit she said, he said, they said.
The most important and worrying part is the harassing of O and her mum. I am going to email the school a brief factual account of that part and my concern about it. I will not mention the part about accusing and harassing me, unless it is brought up.
I will consider ringing the police to discuss it.
My DD has blocked J on all social media, but he is apparantly ranting about "scum lying and slagging him off". Charming.

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tilbatilba · 14/06/2014 21:28

It has everything to do with the school and it has everything to do with their parents. The school is about to amalgamate with a special needs school soon and they need to be very aware that they have some severe behavioural issues amongst their "mainstream' school that need addressing. What a dreadful experience for you all.