To think Jamelia is a nut job

[Boudica1990]

Loose Women today, Jamelia has decided in her wisdom that breast feeding should be compulsory.

WTAF?!

Pretty sure women should be able to dictate what they do with their own breasts!!!

Yes we all know breast feeding is better, but some choose and I emphasise CHOOSE to formula feed, and you know what's that's fine also, but can you really force women to use their body in a way they just simply don't want to??

Y.N.B.A. I didn't breast feed. Had no intentions of. Once my D.D arrived. I wanted my body back. Getting told what to do or what not to do with my own body is not something I am prepared to tolerate. x

She came across as a nut job indeed.

It does seem a little unfair that out of all the bright and funny and intelligent women in the world, they decided to pick her and colleen Nolan.

The show stinks.

I'm looking forward to having my body back and getting back to excersising regularly again even if it's just a 20min jog round the block. I use excersise to manage bouts of mild depression I sometimes have, so I'll be much mentally happier when I can pop to the gym for 40mins knowing baby can be fed at home whilst I'm gone.

Can you imagine if Mumsnet (the sensible members, anyway) was allowed to choose the panel for a show to rival Loose Women? Jamelia and Colleen Nolan would be out of a job in no time

All I ask for, and it's not much I don't think, is someone intelligent and entertaining, someone clever, so when they speak you are enlightened a bit not shocked that they are allowed out in public.

Janet street porter fits my bill and the nice Scottish lady. The rest are just dumb presenters or actors. Sigh.

Absolutely Moomin! Now those buggers deserve some judgement

( I knew it wasn't aimed directly at me, it just made me think about it)

Colleen once said something along the lines of approving of her son going to a prostitute in Amsterdam went righf off her after that

We need to get our opinions off each other's tits.
This^^
And Jamelia needs to engage whatever brain she might have before she opens her mouth.
I don't watch LW, I can't stand programmes like that usually but before the MN panel get rid of her could they put her on one last show with Jo Brand and Janet Street Porter? I'd watch that..

Don't quite know where the term 'nut job' fits in. I feel sure it has nothing to do with mental health or lack thereof.

She really pissed me of with the puppy comment. All my dc were ff and never once were they removed from me or not given comfort when needed

Her view was so black and white with no thought to what a load of shit it was. My friend breast fed but chose to let her baby self settle from a young age. I chose to ff and spend hours (and hours and hours.......) rocking, cuddling, shoosing etc.

Her view that breast feeding always leads to a comforted baby and ff is selfish would be laughable if it was not for the amount of hurt it would have caused to many parents today.

It's such a shame there was not a decent panelist there today that could have shown her to be the twat that she really is.

Turtley what you originally said was not the same as you said in your last post. If a woman finds the idea of HERSELF breastfeeding to be disgusting then that's that. You can't ban free speech because you're breastfeeding you know.

I dont tnink mothers who mix with each other give a jot how others feed their babies last week at work half a dozen mums sat round drinking tea juggiling to feed babies some breast some bottle they were all chatting getting support having a laugh it was lovely

I would love to hear her thoughts on how this system is going to be implemented and monitored....

Saying you are 'physically repulsed by breastfeeding' is perculiar and quite impolite if talking to someone breastfeeding.

It's a shame the 'how to feed a baby debate' can be so polarised and with unthinking dim wits on either side - I mean jamelia! It would be good to understand why bf rates in uk is some of the lowest in the world but that never seems to happen.

You can express and leave milk for baby to be fed while you exercise if that is a bug issue for you.

Also BF wouldn't have caused your family allergies and possibly would have lessened them.

The fact you have none doesn't mean formula is better.

Apart from that I totally agree people should do what's right for them

But I did want to correct your misconceptions.

I didn't like the idea of breast-feeding & really didn't enjoy it at all - It did feel weird & oddly sexual to me, I hated the leaking & the smell of it, but I still gave it a go for the benefit of my baby.

I didn't make a lot of milk but managed for eight weeks with some top-ups - perhaps my supply would have been better if I'd felt more enthusiastic about it.

I've never really got my nipples back - they feel almost numb & definitely unsexy once they used to make me cum by themselves

Thick & opinionated someone said upthread - this is a favourite term of mine my SIL to a tee

I expressed for a year with DD. She has shoxking allergies and eczema.

It's not caused by breastmilk though.

(Dd couldn't latch on)

Has anyone ever tried their breast milk??

Have you seen the cost on one of those machines that pump you like a dairy cow?! Extortionate, I can't purchase one of them and I've read nothing but lousy reviews on hand pumps and hand expressing. I'm personally not in the mood to be sat there milking myself like a cow so I can excersise for mental health benefits so think I'll just buy the powder than dit in tears over it lol.

It says breastfeeding lessens allergies I've read this countless times, however when I look at my family all the breast fed babies have allergies and all the formula fed babies do not. It's weird...

boudica - my hand held pump was about £15 and is brilliant I average about an ounce a minute. I also can't believe the cost of some of the electric ones though I can totally understand why long- term expressers invest in them.

Hmm it's worth a thought, but I wouldn't want to swap between bottle and breast as I read it confuses their latch and can be quite stressful for them. So it would haven to be long term express and I just financially can't afford one of those machines.

I do think it would be nice to breast feed but with some serious anxiety and depression in my past I really don't want to risk and, I know excersise helps me so much better than any medication ever has, so I need to return to it as soon as I can for both me and baby.

I didn't see this but she does sound, if not unhinged, at the very least a bit thick to come out with that statement.
Having said that, it's not as bad as the lady that did my antenatal classes saying that in X country there was 100% breastfeeding so that there was "no excuse not to do it". Now she was unhinged (she also had quite unorthodox views on cot death).

boudica - it's funny you say that as my DH has just gone for a run and goes to the gym for a few hours every other night and all I can think is "I'd love to be able to do that" but I can't because of DS

I keep my expressed milk in the freezer for emergencies but I doubt DS would take a bottle anyway. It's a difficult decision to make regarding switching between bottle and breast because of the latch issues but at the same time I reckon I've missed the window of DS ever taking a bottle so I'm pretty much tied to him.