To think some dog owners think they own the bloody park?

[MissThang]

Was just on way to the park with kids, saw a group of ladies standing having a chit chat quite loudly with about four dogs in tow, two huge ones and a couple of smaller ones. They were blocking the corner path but there was plenty of room in the middle of them. A young woman with a double buggy and toddler holding her hand walked through the middle, cue a load of horrible tutting and loud remarks about how rude it was/how children won't learn manners from parents etc. The woman looked a bit miffed but carried on walking. It just seemed so unnecessary, the woman's toddler looked like she was playing up and wanted to go near the dogs...which wouldn't always be safe, so she walked quickly through. No need for the loud rude comments from them IMO.

seems to happen lots in my local area, dog walkers blocking paths or letting the dogs all over forbidden parkland. Dogs all over seats at local outside cafés. Anyone have this problem where they live at all?

at no point have you said that the dogs approached the woman or the child - in fact you make the point that the child looked like it wanted to approach the dogs, you make no suggestion that the dogs were out of control. the rest of your rants have nothing to do with your observation about the pathway and have been included for no other reason that to start a fight

MissThang Clearly you have a problem with dogs and dog owners.

I accept that not all dogs are well trained and not all dog owners are reasonable but many are. If you continue to berate all dog owners regardless of behaviour then you will needlessly antagonise the reasonable owners. Why would you want to do that?

Reasonable dog owners are your allies if you would but know it. We don't like out of control dogs or owners who don't pick up poo any more than you do. But if you start threads just to wind all dog owners up then the thread will tend to go the way this one has.

Incidentally, you haven't responded to any of the points raised in this thread, choosing to accuse people of being PA amongst other things. That suggests you don't actually want to engage...

and you accuse me of personal attacks!

Ha! Until you receive your gimp mask! X

oh my. an example of how not to whatsapp and attempt to post on mn at the same time.

A friend of ours is a keen cyclist and he has been attacked by dogs numerous times.
When he kicks out at the dog (mainly to stop it from grabbing his leg and pulling him off his bike) the owners very often have the cheek to yell after him
''Oi, stop kicking my mutt dog you ba%$&Rd!!!''

The only times I don't like dogs in parks is when you see one person with what appears to be a pack of dogs (dog walker maybe?) and the animals are all off the lead and will behave in a pack manner, chasing and jumping up at don't worry he's only being friendly anybody that walks by.

Responsible dog owners with dogs that are well-trained I like to see in parks.
I think you get irresponsible parents as well.

MissThang, its best to ask the original question and then sit back and let everybody get on with it.
Let them kill eachother, but stay out of it yourself :).
This is how it seems to work on here ;)
Don't get drawn in by any 'baiting' that goes on.
You'll learn!

The only times I don't like dogs in parks is when you see one person with what appears to be a pack of dogs (dog walker maybe?) and the animals are all off the lead and will behave in a pack manner, chasing and jumping up at don't worry he's only being friendly anybody that walks by.

Out of control animals are a nightmare regardless of where they are or who they are with (as are out of control kids/cyclists/drivers etc etc). The OP has goaded and provoked and included utterly irrelevant information in order to start a fight and then when this is pointed out she has been rude, aggressive and confrontational.

wheresthelight, I need to read the whole topic.
(just trying to make sure that what happened to me isn't happening to another newbie).

I remember the very first New Topic I made on Mumsnet nearly caused WW3 (even though it wasn't meant to).
I made the mistake of posting it in the AIBU section as well, which I have since been informed is notorioius for bringing the unsavoury element out from under their stones to cause trouble!
In the space of one day I had people I have never met in my life calling me a Cnut (and that's one of the more polite words), and a couple were even bragging to each other how they had only just 'seen somebody off' a few days ago and they were wondering how long it would take to 'crack this one'.
.
Unbelievable.

Strangely enough I haven't seen those posters since.
(makes me wonder if they only appear when there's trouble) Strange.

Anyway, I've realilsed that there are a lot of great people on here as well!
So,
Still Here.
Still Posting.

haha AIBU is a minefield - but posters like this one do not help that reputation!

The opening post wasn't 'goady'. It was commenting on an incident that had irritated the OP and asking if others have experienced problems with dogs/dog owners in public areas.

And lots of people said yes because they have.

And lots of dog owners immediately become defensive.

'Tis the way dogs in park threads always go.

My point exactly everlong! Introducing the dogs amd then the rant about dogs on seats etc was deliberately done in order to start a fight

Eh? AIBU to object to dogs climbing over seats in the cafe?

How on earth is that 'deliberately done in order to start a fight'?

Dogs being out of control in public places is a regular problem for me (and lots of others by the looks of this and other threads). It's not the staffie owning brigade that I've ever had problems with, it's the middle class, he's-one-of-the-family, oh-he's-only-being-friendly' crew that have causes me the most distress (and dog bites).

IMVHO, if a dog doesn't come the first time it's called, then it's out of control and should be on a lead on all public places.

No way would I let my children bother other park users (let alone bite them!) and I thoroughly object to dog owners who think it's okay to.

The dogs were climbing on seats in a cafe? I thought they were blocking the path? I'd be more worried as to why the hell there is a cafe in the middle of a path, than dogs on seats.

Is OP sure it was a path and not a cafe forecourt?

My dogs aren't middle class, they're not even lower class. More underclass, especially the terrier. He's an addict Do they do support groups for fox shit addiction?

The AIBU was "To think some dog owners think they own the bloody park" which is goady IMO. The goadiness continued with equating dogs sleeping in beds etc with dogs that kill children - which is bloody ridiculous.

All people have done is point out that it's not just dog owners that are rude/entitled etc. People are rude/entitled, whether they have dogs or not.

Oh and no dog owner would think its ok for their dogs to bite someone, so hyperbole doesn't help.

I think my German shepherd thinks he is of a higher class than my golden retriever. He does look at her with disgust when she rolls in fox/horse/cow poop. Or takes things from the bins. Or wallows in mud puddles.

I don't think my golden has any class at all.

MuttDog is definately working class, but with an edge of Environmentalist - she collects discarded plastic bottles in the street and dumps them next to our blue bin.

My lab is probably middle class. She loves parmasan.

My staffie is a bit of a rags to riches footballer's wife of the dog world.

She was rescued from a flat within a high rise tower where she was bred from and kept in a cage, but has now got so aspirational that she won't sleep on an actual dog bed. And she won't let us clip her claws so we have to take her to a froo froo doggy parlour for them to do it at vast expense. I have a J Lo dog.

Arf @ J-lo dog!! :o

I'd say after that shitty previous life she deserves it though

SelectASpaniel is tug-thy-forelock, know-thy-place working class. He won't get up on the sofa unless specifically invited and he won't come upstairs to the bedroom. He is very much a below-stairs dog. If he were a human he'd be Alfred the footman (pawman?) from Upstairs Downstairs.

So am i unreasonable to say that 'To think some parents think their children own the park' ?

The amount of times ive been to the park with my dog and i see parents with kids, bags, bikes, jumpers etc left all over the place while they play, picnic etc. I then have to dodge all of this while walking my dog on or off lead.

A park is a public place for everyone to enjoy. If you are in an area where dogs are allowed then you have to expect there to be Dogs, Kids, Bikes, Scooters etc. I understand people being upset if there is a dog inside a play park when there are notices up saying no dogs, this comes down to one owner being inconsiderate (but not every dog owner).

I don't have children but i do have a dog and quite frankly my dog comes before anyone else, Just like any parent would put their child first. That is just my feeling towards my dog and i don't expect anyone else to put him first so i am considerate of others around me, i do put my dog a lead if we get to a park and its busy more for my dogs safety and sanity then anyone else's. However if there is a is quiet, open space i will let my dog off his lead to run. I do recall with him to make sure his focus is on me but im not going to put him back on a lead just because a child/person walks in to the area we are playing/exercising in.

Everyone has a right to use a public space for whatever use they want to. As a society we all need to become a little more tolerant of each other.