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Don't stress me out. AIBU?

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Etah · 07/06/2014 17:06

This morning I had to leave early for my course and I left our daughter with H.

His parents came to visit and after my course I went to meet with them all at the high street.
We were walking in a shopping centre looking at shop windows, when H saw a pair of sandals that he liked.
He mentioned something about "needing" one pair for our holidays (it is going to be only 1 week holiday and the only time of the year he will wear sandals).
I pointed out that he has one pair already, not exactly the same, but very similar (same brand) and he doesn't need another pair.

He than said the two sandals were not the same and he liked the one in the shop.
I said that we are already spending a lot on this holiday (paid for already) and still have to find spending money for it, also we are attending a wedding just before the holiday....and on the top of that we are going through an unexpected financial muddle at the moment and we need to be extra careful with money otherwise we will be in trouble. Why thinking about buying a second pair of sandals similar to the one he got already and he will use only for 1 week of the year?

(I may have said no one (at the holiday place) cares about what one another is wearing and no one will be taking pictures of his feet)

He then said very abruptly "Don't stress me out!"

What? I was just having an adult conversation! I didn't think I said anything wrong and certainly wasn't being rude to him, why he can't talk about those things without getting stressed? Sure this is normal conversation between adults who are tied financially?

So he entered the next shop where his parents were. I stood on the outside, open mouth and stunned, not knowing what to think...then he came back and said he was not going to tolerate me stressing him out anymore...I than calmly asked him if he realises we are in financial troubles? because doesn't seem he knows it yet...he said of course he knows about our money problems but he was just "thinking' about buying it, not "buying' it and I stressed him out.

(he loves shopping btw and holiday is a perfect excuse)

So I said that I don't think it was fair of him being rude to me just because I gave him my opinion and I wanted his house keys because I was just going to go home and leave them all to it. (I had forgotten my keys at home when left).

He said: Just go then, and gave me the keys.

I started to move and go, and he stopped me, asking if I was going to tell his parents I was going back home? but I said I would see them back in the house later, so what is the point?

He then said that I couldn't possibly just go home and not say "good bye see you later at home" to his parents.....

But I did. I just came home. Turned my back on him and came home.

I will not tolerate him being rude to me. I was not trying to stress him out. And he could have spoken properly to me if I was saying things he didn't like.

Setting the boundaries bar up high.

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minibmw2010 · 07/06/2014 17:44

I think you spoke to him like a child. OK he has another pair of sandals already, all that needed saying was 'what about the pair you already have?' and if he persevered say 'please don't, we're a bit skint, lets see if we can do it another time?'. But walking away while you are out with his parents and your child is just silly and childish and guaranteed to make a situation even worse.

Etah · 07/06/2014 17:45

He refuses to have a budget.
I tried to create a budget for him to stick to and he will not.
So I try and save as much as I can just in case.

Also

We can afford the pair of sandals but it would be stupid to buy it. He has a similar pair in the same colour already. The one he has is single strapped and he wants a double strapped

I will make another spreadsheet and see if he is willing to have an attitude change regarding his spending.

And I agree I have to chance my attitude too.

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cornflakegirl · 07/06/2014 17:47

I'm not pushed for cash at the moment and I still think it's wasteful to have an expensive duplicate of an item you only use for one week a year.

Also don't think it's rude to not say goodbye to his parents - surely he can just say "Etah wanted to get home as it's been a long day, she'll see you at home".

You need to get the money thing sorted though. It's no fun for either of you to have one always wanting to spend and the other always reining them back. Can you google for a course to go on or something?

RhondaJean · 07/06/2014 17:48

Oh dear.

So there he is, thinking about his holiday, relaxed and happy, when suddenly you burst his balloon.

You need to tell him just how resentful you are of his spending but that was neither the time nor the place to do it, I would have been absolutely furious at my DH if had spoken to me the way you did. And you were very very rude to storm off without saying goodbye to his parents who had nothing to do with any of it.

I bet you are both under a lot of stress but overall no one is covering themselves in glory from this.

Etah · 07/06/2014 17:48

Actually just checked the website and it costs £64.95 for him to wear one week of the year.
And he has a similar pair, same colour already.

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PrincessBabyCat · 07/06/2014 17:48

Is your DH a think out loud sort of guy? If my DH went through our finances every time I said I wanted something, it would drive me nuts. Sometimes I just want an opinion. Sometimes I just want him to know so it's in our bucket list of things to get after bills.

Why couldn't he have gotten a pair of sandals? Were they expensive? Why not let him take it out of his part of the souvenir money?

PlumpPartridge · 07/06/2014 17:50

Good on you for admitting to a degree of personal fault, op. It does sound like you need to both be on board with financial planning though, not just one of you. DH and I have a personal expenditure fund each too and it has removed a lot of stress from our budget meetings Grin

gobbynorthernbird · 07/06/2014 17:51

You honestly told your DH he couldn't have something that he wanted, when you can afford it, then went off in a strop? Wow.

FatalCabbage · 07/06/2014 17:51

For our hols DH had a pair of brown ?leather two-strap sandals for £6 from Primark. They are good as new after a hectic week at Center Parcs.

£69 is a lot by comparison.

Etah · 07/06/2014 17:51

*minibmw2010 Sat 07-Jun-14 17:44:30
I think you spoke to him like a child. OK he has another pair of sandals already, all that needed saying was what about the pair you already have?' and if he persevered say 'please don't, we're a bit skint, lets see if we can do it another time?

Please can you give me a course in how to speak like this?
I really NEED it.

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RhondaJean · 07/06/2014 17:52

Ok reread your post.

YOU think it would be stupid to buy it.

He thinks it would be a good idea and even you admit you can afford it.

I think a woman coming on here saying my DH tore a strip of me in public for wanting to buy something which I know we can afford would be told to ltb.

However on the balance he isn't behaving well either at all. Does He have a habit of putting his head in the ground?

PrincessBabyCat · 07/06/2014 17:54

Oh. £64.95... That's a pretty penny.

I have quite a few pairs of shoes that DH thinks looks similar, but I think they look different. Some are newer, some have zippers, etc...

Even so, could he take it out of his spending money and you get to spend £64 on something else while on holiday?

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Etah · 07/06/2014 17:54

You honestly told your DH he couldn't have something that he wanted, when you can afford it, then went off in a strop? Wow.

We can afford it TODAY but how about TOMORROW?

Why spend money on these sandals today and have less money to spend on the trip?

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expatinscotland · 07/06/2014 17:56

£65? I'd have gone fucking spare!

Etah · 07/06/2014 17:56

Does He have a habit of putting his head in the ground?

Yes he is expert on it.

It is k he wanting to buy the fricking sandals. I don't even think he was going to buy it today.

But I didn't like the way he spoke to me.
He could have put his point across nicely.

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PrincessBabyCat · 07/06/2014 17:57

Please can you give me a course in how to speak like this?
I really NEED it.

Become a robot It's easy to say calm and out of the situation when you are irritated. I'm not exactly a peach when I'm irritated.

I think the key is to figure out a budget you can agree on, agree on specific spending amounts and then relax and let him buy what he wants within that limit. :)

RhondaJean · 07/06/2014 18:02

Look I know it's easier said than done but it's about picking your moment perhaps, if he wasn't even going to buy the sandals I would have waits till tomorrow,,started reorganising a cupboard, and "found" the identical ones.

"oh look DH a pair of sandals just like the ones you saw! Great that's £65 more spending money"

Situation defused.

But you need to find a way to get him to face up to the big picture. However I wonder if perhaps you are more stressed than you need to be, if you can afford holidays etc maybe the financial situation isn't that awful, at least not worth maki yourself I'll over?

FunkyBoldRibena · 07/06/2014 18:06

He said he 'needed' a pair. Well if he already has a pair then he doesn't 'need' them does he?

I am with you OP; my OH likes his Fred Perry tops and when we go out he says 'I like this one' and I say 'Of course you do dear, it's exactly the same as all the other ones you already have at home'.

He isn't allowed to go shopping without me as yet another FP top will find it's way home. Sigh.

PrincessBabyCat · 07/06/2014 18:07

If it makes you feel better, I have a bunch of random tacky crap stuff decorating the house that DH bought because he wanted it, and we could afford it.

To date it includes: One hideous plush pumpkin with plaid patches, random guitar type instruments he wanted to learn but watched one youtube video and dropped, duplicate trash bins in different rooms, some ugly magnets, an ugly bear painting you get at tourist traps, and a hideous gold clock.

Sometimes you have to just close your eyes and let them buy whatever crap they want within the agreed budget. To be fair, I got an origami book and paper animals are all over the house on shelves and whatnot. I swear our place looks nice, there's just mismatched crap in some places

Etah · 07/06/2014 18:09

I hear Rhonda maybe it is my fault and the way I was brought up or maybe it is my culture as I am not from the UK, but I don't want to speak/treat him like a child.
I would be able to handle someone talking to me the way I did talk to him without getting stressed.
I am probably more stressed as I know more details of the finances than he does but this is just because he is not interested.
We are waiting the outcome of something, so I will be able to have a proper look at it and put everything in black and white and try and engage him.

We can afford holidays because we are doing as a group with his family and it is paid for already. It is on the cheap.
The financial situation is a new problem that we were not expecting this year.

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SugarMiceInTheRain · 07/06/2014 18:20

Neither of you handled the situation well, but it sounds like your resentment over his attitude to your precarious financial situation has just overflowed. TBH I don't know how to deal with someone who is in denial about money problems and likes to spend, as DH and I are both cautious. Maybe separate your finances so that disposable income is in a separate account and once it's gone, it's gone. So if he spends all the money before the holiday, tough luck, HE will have no holiday spending money. One of you needs to be responsible wrt finances.

gobbynorthernbird · 07/06/2014 18:28

If you can't genuinely can't afford them (and I think you mean that you technically have the money, but it would come out of the 'holiday spends' pot), then you need to say that. Getting into other things such as him already having a similar pair just seems petty and dilutes your point.

ThePinkOcelot · 07/06/2014 18:28

I think you were a bit OTT about a pair of sandals. In fact it looks like you were speaking to him like a child. I think I would have said more than stop stressing me out. You were also rude not saying bye to his parents.

Etah · 07/06/2014 18:31

OTT about a pair of sandals that costs nearly £70, that is not needed and will be used only during one week?

Sorry I disagree.

But I agree with me talking to him like a child and being rude to his parents.

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