AIBU to think if your child isn't in the buggy you should fold it down.

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I was was waiting for the bus yesterday and noticed that there was 3 pushchairs including my own waiting to get on. The lady in front noticed this too and folded down her pushchair as her daughter was walking around anyway.

We got on and the other couple with a baby had taken up the whole of the buggy spaces even though baby was sitting on mums knee.

They refused to fold the pushchair down so I had to fold my own waking my DS in the process. I had to stand the frame flat against the fold up seats so everytime the bus accelerated or used the breaks it would swing back and forth so partner had to stand holding the frame for the entire journey.

AIBU to think If your oversized bulky pushchair is empty you should fold it down if somebody else needs to use the bay?

In the city where I live, unfolded pushchairs are not allowed on buses. I've seen drivers make exceptions for sleeping infants, but generally everyone expects to have to fold. Annoyingly, there are also no spaces for luggage so I sit my 3 year old in the window seat with the changing bag and shopping under his feet, then I sit next to the aisle with the folded pushchair between my knees and the 1 year old on my lap. My fellow passengers are always friendly and someone always jumps up to help us get off safely but it's all a bit of a pain in the arse. So we don't often get the bus...

We do walk miles and miles some days so I have a big sturdy all-terrain double, but I know that I can't take it on the bus even it starts raining or everyone is tired and grumpy. Conversely if I take the bus-friendly cheapy umbrella-fold we can't walk far because the pavements are in terrible condition or non-existent so we're stuck waiting for buses!

What I'm trying to say is that being able to take unfolded pushchairs on the bus is a privilege and it's a shame some people can be such inconsiderate arses about it. I think the assumption that no one will help is depressing, but I used to feel the same when I lived in London.

ikea the bus Is not free for parents where I live. I think under 5s go free but I still have to pay full fare for myself.

ikea what non folding culture?! Do you mean in Sweden? I don't believe that for a second. That would mean that all Swedish mothers who use buggies on public transport are as selfish as you as they obviously buy non folding ones.

I can't link too ikea but you also say on first page that " you're not going to buy an unfoldable pushchair" so that means that they ARE for sale and used in Sweden. Just not by you....

Super are you saying that when you have been on Swedish busses you have seen people folding their pushchairs?

As I said a bugaboo cameleon is quite a small pushchair compared to alot of the pushchairs here.

My cousin visited with a mclaren pushchair and it didn't fit the ramps going up the stairs as the wheels are too close together, almost everyone has large pushchairs with air filled wheels, for half of the year a fold up pushchair with hard plastic wheels would be unusable.

Yes, they are seen as holiday pushchairs, you can use them in airports easily.

I know lots of people with babys and toddlers and I don't know anyone who uses a fold up pushchair as their daily pushchair.

Hi my first post on here
I work for a disability charity and we have many mum members and myself i have epilepsy
I also have a 10 month old DS
Because I have seizures it would not be safe for me to fold down the pram and hold DS on the bus
We also have two ladies with cerebral palsy and one with Chronic Arthritis who can walk and push a pram but because they don't have the strength in their arms so they can't fold or hold there baby's/toddlers on a moving bus
So sometimes there are reasons, maybe not in most cases but in some. Had one lady in tears as she was called all the names under the sun by a passenger for not folding (lady who wanted to park her trolly in space)
After this we contacted the bus company and we now carry I slip to show the driver or other passengers explaining our disability
I for one though (maybe I should) don't feel the need to explain myself to other passengers. I just say I have a disability so I can't fold. If they ask what I say none of your business

One lady would also not have the strength to fold pushchair even if toddler was on knee as her elbows are basically locked. And she has asked passengers to do this for her on many occasion.
About half she has found someone but other times she just gets people turning away from her
Another time one passenger folded her buggy but then got off, she asked the two remaining passengers (both men) to put the buggy back up and she just was met with blank stares. In the end in tears she asked the driver who huffed and puffed but did it.

ikea that really is an odd rule but good that you get the free travel I guess.

I have a Cam too ikea and I just lob it in the luggage rack whole at times. Luckily we have luggage racks on our buses. For all that I call it the tank, it is smaller than lots of the popular pushchairs about these parts. Especially the graco monstrosities.

We also have nice big yellow stickers telling people that they're legally obliged to fold up or shift if a wheelchair using passenger wants to board. Along with the notices informing everyone that the company has decided to ban electronic cigarettes there's been a metric fuckton of chuntering going on recently:o

Luggage racks would solve the problem, my son's nursery is one stop away from IKEA so often some or all of the pushchair space is taken up by someone's new shelves.

One of the spaces is labeled as a wheelchair space, it has special ties to secure a wheelchair, I think that is the only space a wheelchair is allowed to use and there is no signage to say a wheelchair takes priority, although I'd get off if a wheelchair needed the space. I very rarely see wheelchairs on the bus, people with disabilities are entitled to free taxis so I guess they use a taxi instead.

Its not precious about naps if they have been awake 4hrs past nap time for an dr appt already for example

Clearly people should feel guilt if they have a medical condition/pregnant so unable to manage folding.

But in situation described sounds like they could as there was a couple of adults etc