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AIBU?

To want to shake the entire Labour leadership and scream SORT IT OUT you useless tossers!!!!!!

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Springheeled · 26/05/2014 12:11

Because if Labour don't speak out or formulate anything sensible then the vacuum for the far right grows and look what happens...

I dearly wish they would stop cowering, quivering, vacillating, hovering uncertainly in the middle of the road, wobbling, wibbling and wavering.

I expect they'll now start wetly making noises about immigrations and referendums, pandering to the ukip voters rather than having the guts to argue that immigration and Europe are not the biggest problems we face.

Labour is supposed to be the party of the working people, the majority of us. I am so disgusted with them for missing an open goal and I'm terrified of a Tory/UKIP coalition. A year to go! Some guts please Labour! Some policies! Some swagger!

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funnyossity · 26/05/2014 14:17

thebody I was interested to read that the "bigoted woman" lady has voted Labour this election. I shall continue to withdraw my vote as a protest to the shabby name-calling. Grin

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longfingernails · 26/05/2014 14:17

Labour are crap at getting rid of crap leaders - they couldn't even ditch Gordon Brown. If Cameron had done as poorly as Miliband in reversed circumstances he would have been gone by now (just look at IDS). The LDs used to be quite good at getting rid of albatrosses too (Ming Campbell) but seem to have lost the art with Clegg.

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funnyossity · 26/05/2014 14:21

That's wouldn't be taken as a particular insult where I'm from NoArmani! My own dear mother went Hmm as I trotted off to the opera during an experimental teenage stage!

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Nancy66 · 26/05/2014 14:21

the 'bigoted woman' was a lifelong Labour supporter. It's why she was so shabbily treated.

Who to replace Ed though? I guess Chuka Umunna is being groomed for big things but he's not there yet.

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bubblegun · 26/05/2014 14:24

YANBU. Jesus Christ, labour, sort yourselves out.

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MrsWicket · 26/05/2014 14:30

I'm not a fan of any politician but if either Millipeed or Balls up appear on the telly I'm sprinting for the remote!! Can't bear either of them

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eddiemairswife · 26/05/2014 14:33

I think Rachel Reeves shows promise.

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Mrsjayy · 26/05/2014 14:33

I was watching ed milliband on breakfast last week he does this weird hand talking thing but it looks insincere and bloody distracting are they tra7ned to do that or something

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thebodylovesspring · 26/05/2014 14:43

That's my point. By dismissing voters choices all parties are responsible for this ridiculous UKIP debacle.

I am a labour voter, always have been but I am stunned by the dither, hopelessness and utter lack of capability that seems to surround the labour leadership.

Nick Clegg looks 10 years older on sky news today, and he will go.

Miliband needs to step aside too.

If he doesn't the party will muddle through to the next election and the Tories will absorb UKIP voters with their promise of an in/out vote.

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Panwearsrosa · 26/05/2014 15:04

YADNBU.

Am a Labour Party member and sort activist when time allows. Vote too for Andy Burnham but if that's the way to go it has to happen v soon in prep for next year, but it isn't going to happen.

Ed needs to promote proper hard-working representative MPs to the front benches who will be forth-right and carry a fight instead of stacking it with his 'mates'.

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saadia · 26/05/2014 16:21

YANBU and I'm so glad you voiced what I was thinking. I cannot forgive Ed for standing against his brother and making the Labour Party so unelectable. They need a much better strategy, the messag (if there is one) is not getting through.

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tiggytape · 26/05/2014 16:22

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AnneEyhtMeyer · 26/05/2014 16:33

Labour hasn't represented the working classes for a couple of decades. They have been living off their reputation as the "working class" party and have relied on votes from people who religiously vote Labour because their families always have or because it is the cool thing to do. Their leadership is about as far from the ordinary working class as it is possible to be.

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jellybeans · 26/05/2014 16:43

Left Unity sounded quite good until I read their weird policies on creches and housework!

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MintyCoolMojito · 26/05/2014 16:47

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Best1sWest · 26/05/2014 16:50

I like Andy Burnham too among others. They will never win with Miliband in charge. Wrong choice from the start and I say this as a member.

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Springheeled · 26/05/2014 19:01

Maybe I'm in a small minority but I like Miliband and had hopes for him. I thought, as tiggytape says, that maybe he was playing the long game.
I just want them to say something, anything, worth going for. The recent policy announcements were okish but so very timid- grabbing landlords, private companies, tax dodgers, I'd love to see Labour take them on. Every time Tristam Hunt opens his mouth on schools it's so depressing.
Then there's climate change to worry about. I just hear them saying nothing!
I also don't like all the 'hardworking families' stuff. We don't all live in families! Some people can't work or can't find work. It all adds to the wedge being driven between different groups.
Sigh.

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TwoNoisyBoys · 26/05/2014 19:37

YADNBU op....and I agree entirely with Aradia and mrstigs. I've ALWAYS voted Labour and really want to continue to do so, but fgs, sort it out!

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SolomanDaisy · 26/05/2014 19:48

It's too late to get rid of Ed and there's no one credible enough to take over yet. I suspect they have never been expecting to win in 2015 and are already focusing on 2020. We are still too close to the previous government, which was widely hated by the end, for them to be a fresh hope. Waiting a few years, with a change of leader in say two years, should be enough for them to win.

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Springheeled · 26/05/2014 19:55

Oh cripes solomon, not another 5 years of this shower!

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Panwearsrosa · 26/05/2014 19:59

I wouldn't be that pessimistic, tbh. There is still one year to go on the front foot, and assuming LPHQ do read this form of social media then....GET THESE MESSAGES!!

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Panwearsrosa · 26/05/2014 20:02

and please please do not come out with anti-immigration lines. Tories and Ukip have the unattractive lead on those. NHS, cost of living, social housing, environment, banker control, inward investment - just a few of my favourite things.Smile

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wheresthebeach · 26/05/2014 20:05

Why don't they go on the attack? There's so much to say but they just whimper and simper. Drives me nuts.

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EverythingCounts · 26/05/2014 20:17

YANBU. I am desperate for them to get in gear. I think SunnyL has Ed right - he is smart but not charismatic. That should not be decisive, but it way well be. Meanwhile we have hateful poor-bashing politics from the right and the Lib Dems failing to stop it. Clegg and co are dead next time so Labour simply have to try harder.

Did Jeremy Vine do the translation of local election results into what they would produce in terms of general election seats? If so, how did it work out?

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EverythingCounts · 26/05/2014 20:17

YANBU. I am desperate for them to get in gear. I think SunnyL has Ed right - he is smart but not charismatic. That should not be decisive, but it way well be. Meanwhile we have hateful poor-bashing politics from the right and the Lib Dems failing to stop it. Clegg and co are dead next time so Labour simply have to try harder.

Did Jeremy Vine do the translation of local election results into what they would produce in terms of general election seats? If so, how did it work out?

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