If UKIP are so terrible, why did they win so much?

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I didn't vote UKIP - I voted for my local Christians. However, if I were to purely read the comments on Mumsnet and the comments on Facebook re UKIP, I would have thought they would come last; yet they didn't. Why? Are there so many of us on here that are so different from (clearly) the majority?

Thanks to a website that had the foresight to archive it, I've found the Restoring Britishness policy.

I can't face reading all 17 pages! But I think we should harvest shale gas. I also think we give too much credibility to the "green" credentials at the expense of our own economy and energy prices.

I'm sure there are parts of ukip policy I disagree with. In fact I'm certain. But I doubt anyone could point to a party where they agree with all aspects of it. You just have to find the party with you agree with on the whole. Or as much as possible.

ok, well at least read the Britishness policy. (Though the energy policy is incredibly important)

So do ukip voters separate the person from the policy or do you agree with Roger Helmer's stance on rape and gay marriage too?

"But I doubt anyone could point to a party where they agree with all aspects of it. You just have to find the party with you agree with on the whole. Or as much as possible."

Well yes, but I consider equality for women, inclusion and disability support and the NHS not being privatised as big enough sticking points that all the offers of referendums about the EU and smoking in pubs is pretty irrelevant.

Congregate communities will in reality mean shutting the disabled away. Plenty of disabled people want to live in the community, with family and friends.

You refer to congregate communities for elderly people. Where I live supported accommodation is closing, because most elderly people want to stay in their own homes. Like my parents who want to continue living next to neighbours they have been good friends with for years.

Smoking in pubs was horrendous and I fully support the no smoking ban.

So do labour voters separate the person from the policy or do you agree with Austin Mitchell's opinion that a corporate takeover is rape and that that business is a rapist

Etc etc etc

Tabula where in the manefesto do ukip want inequality for women?

Abandoned in the community which is what is offered now unless you have a very vocal family fighting for you which is bloody exhausting

Unless you have been in this position its very hard for people to understand....It is exhausting, soul destroying and very very frustrating as well meaning idiots abandon people with LD in poor accommodation in cheap areas....and leave them to it...open to all sorts of abuses.

Perhaps those Polish workers were prepared to work more flexibly than your husband? If you're serious about getting work you don't put yourself at a disadvantage. And of course he will work extended hours in McDonalds - their opening hours have to be accommodated.

This post is the exact example of why UKIP are challenging the establishment.

As are the posts regarding fruit picking and how we need to get the food in using cheap labour.

Plenty of disabled people want to live in the community, with family and friends

are you talking about those with LD? who are usually visited by their family once a year?

it's in it's actions:
Roger Helm, the Energy spokesman and E Mids MEP voted against the Equal Pay debate in Europe
It's policy to do away with SMP.

Where ever there is a litmus of white/black, male/female analysis, UKIP fail.

Where ever there is a litmus of white/black, male/female analysis, UKIP fail.

Hopefully they continue to fail as badly as they did last night.

caruthers you're here! I was just trying to unmask you!

Nobody is saying current care for the learning disabled is good.

UKIP are not referring just to those with LD, but anyone who is disabled. I don't know anyone who has physical disabilities of MH disabilities, who want to live in a segregated community for the disabled.

Yes there should be better support which will require more funding. That is the real solution.

UKIP are also anti gay.

Yes Nigel, I'd thought you'd may say that. I'm speaking of your policies and stated aims that divide and exclude along demographic characteristics.

This post is the exact example of why UKIP are challenging the establishment.

What did I tell you sooty?

Well personally I'd lump people who vote ukip and people who vote green in the same category. Morons.

Do you think we scared him off Pan?

caruthers you're here! I was just trying to unmask you!

And I didn't even feel a thing :)

And I didn't even feel a thing

Skilled fingers

You must have a lot more press to do today?

2 people I work with admitted to voting UKIP, because of immigration-no-one seems to see past that

You still sticking by your policy that you need to have parents and grandparents living in the area to get social housing?