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getting envious of people in decent social housing, when i have no right to be envious

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PandaPicnic · 24/05/2014 16:55

i am being a total twat today
even annoying myself

but close to wear we live there are some really realy nice brand new houses being built
30% of these houses are going to be social housing

these houses to but cost in the region of 250k three bed semi

we currently live 10min walk away in a 3 bedroom house

these new ones have been built in a traditional style and are really nice, although the gardens are very small

i have no reason to be envious as we own our house, which is probably worth around 200k and have a morgage of about 100k which we can afford quite comfortably
and i realise when we are older,assuming we live that long,
that we will have an asset, although suppose theres a good chance that could get sold to pay for a care home or whatever

anyway

i suppose this am walking past i was just thinking these people that move in will have lucked out big time

i understand that not all social housing, in fact the vast majority are no where near as nice
and that its a kind of massive lottery who gets what home, you could have one family struggling to get housed anywhere, another family in a mouldy inadequate smelly flat yet another family who virtually hit the jackpot with one of these homes

i don't know why im getting envious about it
perhaps its the bloody tory goverment polluting my mind
perhaps i need some brain bleach and a good lie down

i realise i might stick over this, thats fair enough i can take it

but i really do not want to feel this way and i was really wondering why i do and how to correct it

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ghostmous3 · 25/05/2014 22:27

Im in social housing myself, and the entire housing stock is being brought up to date in my area by having new kitchens, bathrooms, roofs done, outsides painted...all except my house as its non standard construction like a few of them in my town.

My house has a kitchen thats 25 years old and has fallen apart, council will not repair as its not cost viable and they dont do my kitchen style anymore, the bath leaks, we still have the original tin bath. Its full of mould which is a battle to get off. We have no shower and no way of attaching a plastic one as the council put square taps on. We wash our hair with a bucket.

There are some lovely places being built for tenants but i dont qualify, its so unfair, my rent is actually higher than a private rent, higher than all the other tenancies in the area and the ciuncil wont tell me why.

at least i have a house, im trying to tell myself that. I stuck here though, no one wants it, rent too high and the state of the kitchen and bathroom.

Dont be envious, im in social housing. I will never ever again own my own house, i have nothing to give my kids.

ghostmous3 · 25/05/2014 22:30

I remember moving in here and I had to clean used sanitary towels and human shit from the garden before ,y kids could play in it and my partners daughter badly cut her leg in some wire the council left hidden in the garden

my ds is disabled, i wont be leaving here anytime soon

Custardo · 25/05/2014 22:39

the new houses are more likley to be classes as 'affordable rent' ( or unaffordable rent as most in the social housing industry call it)

i'd bet my arse they are paying more in 'affordable rent' than you are paying for your mortgage

see this guardian article www.theguardian.com/housing-network/2014/feb/03/affordable-housing-meaning-rent-social-housing

Smilesandpiles · 25/05/2014 22:45

I agree Custardo, most people I know who rent are charged more then my mortgage payments. In some cases almost double.

Iflyaway · 25/05/2014 22:53

Be thankful you can even afford a mortgage and have a roof over your heads and have food on the table.

Your gripe is just a metaphor for some frustration within yourself. I would take a look within rather than without...

OutsSelf · 25/05/2014 23:02

I'm in a one bed room flat, HA, with DP and our two children. We both work, and the rent is just a shade under what a PP is paying for.a.three bed house. No one in our building is unemployed. We're on a waiting list for a bigger place but tbh I don't think we can afford.it. We aren't on HB but get some tax credits.

Edenviolet · 25/05/2014 23:09

If you saw a snapshot of my life you would see us in a nice 3 bed council house, decorated nicely, lovely back garden etc but you wouldn't see how we were on the list for 5 years desperate to get out of 1 room, or the disgusting state the house was in when we got it.

You also wouldn't know that we pay 100% or our rent and council tax or know the reasons why we were eligible for council housing.

Please try not to be envious of those who will get one of the new build houses because I guarantee you wouldn't want their lives. Social housing is scarce so only those in the worst situations tend to get them.

revealall · 25/05/2014 23:19

I got lucky. New HA house,with a garden in a very nice town. Property here suddenly boomed after Christmas. Mine is worth £260,000 if it were private. I'm grateful BUT
there is there is now no where to move on to. Can't afford to buy. This is one of the best towns in the South and I live in one of the best bits of it.So despite hating being someone that lives in the same place forever I fear I will.
At least you can go onwards and upwards.

EllaJayne123 · 25/05/2014 23:35

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SinisterBuggyMonth · 26/05/2014 00:16

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Smilesandpiles · 26/05/2014 00:18

Ella rents, she doesn't own it. That's how I've read it.

Aspiringhuman · 26/05/2014 00:24

ella, I've heard of a few people turning down properties. However most people I know are so desperate to have a roof over their head they jump at the chance of a home.

When we got ours there was excrement on the walls, drugs hidden, rotten food and 13 skip less of junk in the garden which had to be sprayed by environmental health before anyone touched it.

Smilesandpiles · 26/05/2014 00:27

I don't know what the rules are everywhere else but here, you are offered 3 houses. If you don't take one of those up you go back to the bottom of the list again.

babybat · 26/05/2014 00:38

There are big new developments going up very close to where I live; the hoardings make the new flats look lovely, and I'm sure the people who live in them will be very lucky. Despite being built in a regeneration area, on the site of former council housing, and costing millions of pounds of public money, most of them are for private sale, with only a small number actually described as social housing - the development is mixed to make it more 'commercially viable'. One bedroom flats for private sale are around £350k.

Of the ones which are social housing, most are part buy, part rent, or 'affordable' rent (which is still higher than the going rate for HB), so the people living in them will still be paying quite a lot for their home. I don't think any of the new developments are proper social/council housing any more; the people who are really benefiting from this are the big developers who are creaming off millions from councils and setting rents which are paid for through housing benefit. Save your anger for the people who've designed this system and are getting rich from it, not for the tenants.

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