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to think no you cant take my picture without asking

64 replies

mrsbucketxx · 21/05/2014 16:59

If I didnt see this with my own eyes I wouldn't have beleived it.

A bit of back story for some reason I get unwanted male attention, comments car beeps that sort if thing. Im not Samantha brick just a lanky bird whos hard to miss.

Tonight im walking to my car and I hear a van lad leans out the window and shouts alright babe, as I look up he takes a photo on his phone. I feel really violated, he didn't ask just did it.

Im really fuming aib over the top to be offended. Is this a new thing.

What are your thoughts.

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KeepOnKeepingOnAndOnAndOnAndOn · 21/05/2014 18:46

I have had this done to me on nights out. But it was a pic of my ass. I was quite flattered, didnt feel violated. I have been sexually assaulted before though, I know how it feels to feel violated. I am not suing you were sexually assaulted obviously, but I can empathise with the feeling of being violated by some idiot from the male species.

mrsbucketxx · 21/05/2014 18:48

Its creeping me out what will be done with the photo,

Ffs what wrong with this person Angry

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kinsorange · 21/05/2014 18:50

Has this triggered something for you?

mrsbucketxx · 21/05/2014 18:53

No just thst I want to go about my day and not get stupid comments, cat calling photos what ever.

Im not some object im a person

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numptieseverywhere · 21/05/2014 18:56

Yanbu to feel violated, it was a nasty, intrusive thing to do. I am quite amazed at some of the replies here. Asking you what you were wearing, wtaf?!

TheGirlFromIpanema · 21/05/2014 18:56

I'd be furious too, and so what if you are a 6ft Amazonian like supermodel dressed seductively; it's still shitty behaviour from some twat faced sexist knobheads Sad

Salazar · 21/05/2014 18:57

A man took a photo up my skirt when I was 19. I punched him in the face.

SirChenjin · 21/05/2014 18:57

You are quite right OP - it's unwanted attention, whether it's explicit or via the lens of a camera. Why should you have to put up with it? There are lots of things that we have the legal right to do, but that doesn't mean we should do them.

mrsbucketxx · 21/05/2014 19:37

I felt like that salazar. I had my hands full of bags so I couldn't even give him the finger.

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Salazar · 21/05/2014 19:40

I just saw red. I was in Turkey, and knowing I would never get a rational response from an authority in this situation I just went for it.

The man got the photo though. I shudder to think what it was used for.

ChelsyHandy · 21/05/2014 19:40

YANBU. Its weird. I'm sure people have been found guilty of assault (putting someone in a state of fear or alarm) or breach of the peace for less. And isn't it harassment?

I do find it sad that there are posters who get so little attention from males that they find even the weird and unwelcome unobjectionable.

PrincessBabyCat · 21/05/2014 19:46

You felt violated.

Please.

You were walking on the sidewalk in a public place. He didn't invade your privacy or cause you psychological harm.

Irritating and stupid? Yes. I'd report them for being stupid and harassing you.

If it's any consolation, if they were truly stalking you they wouldn't draw attention to themselves like that.

CanISayOfHerFace · 21/05/2014 19:48

I was in my local high street, walking out of Costa with my early morning coffee and a man in a van was pointing a camera at me. I looked at him and he quickly put the camera out of sight. Then as I carried on walking he was looking the other way but slowly lifted the camera back up to take my picture. I couldn't believe it! I shouted "Don't you fucking dare!" And he sped off!

I reported him to the police but mainly because he was hanging around further along the high street near the school and the slyness of it just seemed really creepy. I have them his reg and a description. They seemed genuinely interested but I d

CanISayOfHerFace · 21/05/2014 19:49

Didn't hear anything more about it. Or ever see him again.

matildasquared · 21/05/2014 19:53

Of course it's violating someone's privacy to take a photo of them without permission. And he was sexually harassing you.

Sadly I'm not at all surprised that someone asked what you were wearing. I am a little surprised that you dignified that with a response.

I hope I never have such low self-esteem that I feel flattered by a stranger taking a photo of my ass without permission. Dear god.

I'm interested in how the law is evolving to deal with the sexual-harassment-by-photo issue. I remember reading that in Japan (and other countries) people have successfully campaigned to have all mobile phone cameras include mandatory "shutter" sounds, to make it more difficult for pervs to take sneaky pictures. Doesn't come into play in your situation, but still one example.

mrsbucketxx · 21/05/2014 20:09

Chelsy my thoughts exactly, am I meant to be thankful for the attention. No I shouldn't.

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mrsbucketxx · 21/05/2014 20:11

I have ne ver thought of it as a self esteem thing matilda but I suppose it is. If you feeling or looking low any attention is a good thing Confused

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MrsWinnibago · 21/05/2014 20:13

You have to move on. These things are horrible but it's not worth musing or worrying about because then, they've won. I once got pissed on in a London Street by a lad whose friend then groped me....of course I was horrified...but I moved on.

matildasquared · 21/05/2014 20:17

Yeah but shutting up about it and/or pretending it's a compliment means they've won.

I think it's okay to get motherfucking angry at how this kind of bullshit is normalised in our society, and say it's wrong, and report the guy--and then move on.

mrsbucketxx · 21/05/2014 20:26

God thinking about it I have been groped, rubbed against, breasts felt.

Its never ok for this behaviour, I hope I teach my ds to respect women totally.

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Backinthering · 21/05/2014 20:27

I'm sad at how many excuses are getting made for low-level sexual harassment. This is why this shit goes one - we're told to just shut up and accept it, or it's implied that we caused it through wearing the wrong thing.

matildasquared · 21/05/2014 20:40

And look at the number of people going out of the way to tell the OP that no, she should not feel violated. Damn.

KeepOnKeepingOnAndOnAndOnAndOn · 21/05/2014 20:47

matilda thanks for your low dig :)
As I stipulated before I have been sexually assaulted so a picture being taken of my ass by a guffawing pissed group of lads was nothing to me, it didn't feel violating and yes, I was rather flattered it was my ass out of a whole group of asses he took a pic of ! Maybe I was lacking self worth, but I did not feel violated. I have actually been violated and I know how that feels. I sympathise with the OP regardless. Everything is subjective.

KeepOnKeepingOnAndOnAndOnAndOn · 21/05/2014 20:49

Once again; everything is subjective. If OP felt violated then she has every right to own that feeling.

In my case I did not, but I know how it feels to be violated and I totally feel for the OP.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 21/05/2014 20:59

You're not being unreasonable at all, OP and however you feel is perfectly valid. I hate this too. It's offensive to me and I would feel violated too. Nobody has the right to tell you how you feel and if they are minimising it then that is disgusting.

I wouldn't go so far as to say that people who like this have low self-esteem but I do secretly think it and wonder how it can be in any way flattering. It would probably feel better, I think, to think of it as 'flattering' but to me it just isn't.

I don't know what we can do about this. There was a recent thread about building sites and cat calling. More scope to do something about it there as people's jobs can be in jeopardy and that focuses their mind on the fact that they can't behave like this.

Thanks for you.

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