To be very annoyed that dd is so sunburnt?

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Dd2 is 4.

It was lovely here today and she wanted to play in the garden so I put factor 50 sun lotion on her and she played from approx 10.30-1130 am then as it was getting a bit hot and she needed her lunch she was indoors from 11.30-2pm.
Reapplied sun cream (water resistant apparently) and she played in the paddling pool for 1 hour. Got out, reapplied sun cream and she played till about 430 pm.

Her face and arms and back are very sunburnt! Why!?? I thought I had reapplied enough and often enough? Other dcs had same sun cream on at the same times and they are not burnt at all and ds1 and 2 are much paler in general than dd2.
I do not have a clue why dd has got so burnt? Half of me wondered about the sun cream but as the other dcs have used it and are fine it can't be that.

Water resistant sun cream will do an hour or more in a baddling pool easily. You have to put on a naked child about 15 minutes before you go out. Then it dries and goes right up to costume edges.

Top ups aplied to wet DCs fall straight off. You have to do it at lunch or after a good trampoline.

UV tops are much easier.

I prefer UV tops, but if you're going to let them go without, then thick factor 50 cream will do the job in water.

I can well believe they don't let the skin breath properly, it's horrible I feeling stuff, but it does the job even in water. I don't think the sprays or the thin lotions are as effective.

And I bet when your children are teenagers they won't cover up and wear hats all the time.

Too true. Both my teenagers' schools actually ban hats, which was a bit of a shock given they'd been compulsory at primary, on the same child, six weeks earlier.

My DDs both burn very easily (then turn into little palominos) as do i. I make sure they have a tshirt on in the pool on the top of their swimming costumes at all times with suncream as well xx

Urgh i did kisses. Shoot me now please.

The next time you're in boots OP look out for the 'single use' sunscreen packs. (Obviously don't buy them because they're really expensive) but note that's the amount the manufacturers think you should use for one day's coverage. It's loads. About the size of a pack of fruit puree.

For a child of 4-7 you need to apply around 7 teaspoons of sun cream. It's a lot more than you think. The all day ones are pointless IMO, better t apply every couple of hours to be on the safe side.

the 'horrible chemicals' in sunscreen (knew this would come up, remember we are all made of chemicals) are a lot less horrible than the ones in the chemotherapy that might be needed for later skin cancer.

but it is easy to avoid. Put them in UV suits and hats. 10 minutes outside will give them their vitamin D.

no, suncream does not block pores or cause dehydration. That is caused by not drinking enough water.

the poster from NZ shows the sensible attitude there - although they are at the equivalent latitude of Spain. But as proved, it is perfectly possible to get serious damage in the UK.

When I applied dd suncream this morning I checked and her arms needed 10 sprays her legs 15 so a lot more than I expected. Dd is a tall but not excessively so 2.5 yo. One of the major problems with suncream is that they are tested with an unrealistically thick layer so they simply aaren't as good as you think in real usage. Hope your daughter is feeling better today.

Try P20, it lasts for 10 hours, its fab. My two were out, well in and out of the sun all day yesterday and the day before, not a red bit in sight. It can stain clothes and bedding though but I dont care as its marvellous stuff.

There must be one sun cream that doesn't bring your children out in a rash

Children who are allergic to one sunscreen are often allergic to another. I know, I've tried so many with my dd1, I tried another one recently which was made by Sudocream which she is not allergic to- within 30 min her skin was red and raised and took about two weeks to go down.

The only one which really doens't irritate her skin is this one:

www.amazon.co.uk/Proderm-Sun-Mousse-SPF-30/dp/B001I24Y38/ref=sr_1_55?s=beauty&ie=UTF8&qid=1400495084&sr=1-55&keywords=suncream+factor+50

Proderm, but it is £20. If you put it on first thing, it lasts all day though.

I do manage most of the time with her in the UK without sunscreen, and I think you need more than 20 min of sunshine anyway (read some research saying that wasn't enough for British children, can't remember why). Her skin type is good in the sun though. Once abroad, she does need it. I put her in t-shirts/capped sleeves to protect the shoulders and her long hair is handy to protect the back of the neck!

Darker haired children can still burn more than seemingly light- my brown-haired/olive skin dd2 burns quite easily- luckily she can wear sunscreen of any brand, which makes life much easier.

Oh no poor love. Sudacrem really is the best for sunburn. I suspect your dd just has very sensitive skin and/or cream got washed/wiped off. Though from what you say she should have been ok and given that the other kids were I would get your dd a different suncream and sunsuit/hat.

Im fair and can burn with cream on in the shade...its bloody frustrating, I just stay covered up and hide!

I'm pretty sure that Factor 50 doesn't mean 50 mins' protection!! I used to use Factor 6 - presumably that didn't need to be reapplied every 6 mins!!

I find it's better to use UV tops and bottoms rather than swimsuit and suncream. The only thing I can think re the suncream is either it was out of date or irritated her skin.

Try Ultrasun. Stops prickly heat and lasts for hours.

nealsyard.co.uk

Excellent, genuinely natural sunscreen here.

More expensive ( by a long shot :() but worth it, as it is very concentrated in my opinion.

My daughter has sensitive skin, and seems to be okay with it.

I react very badly to certain sunscreen chemicals, oxybenzone being the worst, but i am fine with mineral based creams. Avene do a factor 50 mineral cream, it is very whitening, but doesn't cause my skin to flare up. The dds also come up in rashes from cream (but not mineral ones). They also have not yet reacted to the Ultrasun cream, dd hd distinct finger marks where the edges of my fingers had applied the cream but missed a small triangle of skin. The triangle was red, so it did give good protection on the beach.
I look back in horror at my childhood Summers, two weeks on the beach in a bikini and Ambre Solaire oil (no sunscreen agent at all) I blistered and peeled every year, i spent all day in the sea, went to bed scarlet and stiff, no one batted an eyelid! 1970s attitude, goodness knows what it has done to my skin. I worry about skin cancer.

The pool is I fault I expect, the sun reflects off the water so she would have got double dose, those rays from above and those reflecting back up off the pool.

Hope she feels better soon.

I use Soltan kids water play, it works for 6 hours including 3 in the water,neither of mine have burnt using it however most of the time people do not apply sun cream properly, it should be applied about half hour before going out in the sun to be fully effective.

Some children are ok if you don't do this but if they are fair I wouldn't take the chance.

Also the Soltan (boots) all day kids one is great as lasts for 8 hours but only about 40 mins in the water.

With factor 50 I get about an hour and a half before I burn.

I think you didn't use enough sun screen. You need to apply a thick layer, much thicker than you think. When I use a spray, I spray every 2-3 inches to make sure that plenty is going on. With cream I use a good handful for every section of arm and leg. If all the cream rubs in straight away then you probably don't have enough on.
Also water reflects the sun so when playing in water the sun is coming from above and then reflected up as well. Always wear a loose fitting shirt or a sun suit and a hat.
Best treatment for sunburn is a warm-cool bath. It's a burn so you need to cool the skin down to prevent the burn going deeper.

I remembered this from a couple of years ago, I used to apply suncream to DS with all good intentions but this made me realise that I just wasn't using enough

Garnier Ambre Solaire

I'd love it if it was that simple....

Yesterday my DD and I were out for exactly the same length of time in exactly the same sun, using exactly the same F50 suncream.

She's very blonde, I am dark haired and olive skinned.

Today, she is as pale as she was yesterday. My DH, who refused all suncream the idiot, is as pale as he was yesterday. I am a tomato on every inch of exposed skin.

I coated both of us in it at the same intervals and to some standard, because I know I burn in twenty minutes and I'm paranoid about her!

If someone has any ideas, other than never leaving the house, I'd love to hear them!

Another recommendation for P20. I burn very easily without suncream and normal suncreams don't last very long before I burn. With P20 I was able to spend all day in strong sun for 2 weeks on our honeymoon and didn't burn.