To want to give a good slap...

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to all the people who have recently told me they are exhausted, but don't a) have small children or b) other big life commitments. They seem to be hunting me out to tell me, and I have an 8 week old baby who is currently nocturnal and a 2 year old who wakes up at around 6:30am and refuses to knap during the day. Raaaaaahhhhhh!

Slap away!

Every time my DP bangs on about being tired I just want to drown his noise out with a recording of his fucking snoring, which is what is currently (and frequently) keeping me awake...

Please slap away, particularly those who have medical issues you can't see but push on through with gruelling working patterns and have other, less obvious commitments. It's not a tiredness contest. Knackered is knackered.

Poor you sleep deprivation is dreadful, I remember it well.

The problem is that if you haven't had small babies you genuinely have not the first clue how tiring it is.

I have a pregnant friend (pfb) who keeps criticising my parenting (she's never met my children). In addition to this she regularly comes out with the most adorable nonsense about what life will be like post baby. Bless her she has no idea how offensive she's being and obviously I would never condone violence especially to a pregnant woman but... Grr!

Feels like a contest here sometimes, UncleT...

It really shouldn't be though. Don't get me wrong, there are clearly tomes when people need to get real, and there's not much that's as bad as baby sleep deprivation. It's just not always that clear-cut though.

*times

You have absolutely no idea how tired a person feels so I think you're being unreasonable. But I know how hard it must be for you.

However, it does sound like the OP knows the people who are complaining of exhaustion well enough to know if they have underlying health problems or other stress factors which might be causing said exhaustion.

I know my DP is a pain in the arse about his snoring and has been for years! When we move, I may be using the spare room quite often...

Sleep deprivation with babies/small kids is truly awful, sympathies OP. However, just because other people don't have small kids or some other obvious reason doesn't mean they can't be tired too, it's not copyrighted you know!

Op, I'm exhausted

I stayed up late drinking wine...give me sympathy...you can't understand how tired I feel. ::hard done by emoji::

'Just put your feet up with a cup of tea', or my personal favourite 'sleep when the baby sleeps'.

Slap away...

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Blackberry! Arggggg.

Poor nicename is so tired she can't even type.

My blackberry is posessed!

I had hallucinations in the early 'never sleeps' days with DS. Dont think I ever recovered.

I'm knackered because I have an auto immune disease. You chose to have kids. It's different. And annoying. I sometimes didnt have the energy to lift cutlery to my mouth when I was very unwell.

Kill them.

Yours will get better with sleep

DSIS will happily swap your sleepless PFBs for elderly parents whi need help going to the loo three times a night and a full time job.

She will certainly swap you about 38 hours without sleep waiting for an ambulance for one and in A&E with the other (50 miles from home)

So only those with small children can be tired
Really?

I think this was meant to be a lighthearted thread.....

God, I remember hallucinating too nicename. I was convinced DS was a DD at one point and kept calling him 'her', til DH realised and put me to bed.

He would only sleep on me so I remember just sitting up. All night. Until I asked for advice on mumsnet and was roundly instructed to snuggle up in bed with him and go to sleep.

I remember the sleep deprivation and hallucinations from having a new born- one night I was convinced that someone was ringing our doorbell and I was getting very angry with DH for not getting out of bed to answer it whilst I was feeding DD. So YANBU for that.

However, it's all relative. As a PP said if someone doesn't have a child their idea of tired is somewhat skewed to their experiences. I remember a friend with jet lag complaining how tired they were when my DS was 2 months old in at a party.
Another friend told her off for complaining when I had the whole night waking etc. going on but I just pointed out that it was her experience of tiredness and not mine which were wildly different.