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Stolen my ds money

44 replies

IscreamUscream · 14/05/2014 20:04

The Baliffs have taken an £80 fee from ds child support payment this month leaving a £20 payment. They are truely heartless taking this money. The csa told me from now on this is what they do when it is passed onto the Baliffs all because the nrp has to be chased for non payment

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ICanSeeTheSun · 14/05/2014 20:07

Why doesn't the NRP have to pay the fee.

LaurieFairyCake · 14/05/2014 20:16

Good god, that is so shit.

Bastards

LaurieFairyCake · 14/05/2014 20:19

Please contact your MP, raise as much awareness as you can about this

DoJo · 14/05/2014 20:33

How can they justify penalising the recipient of the money? Surely whenever bailiffs are called, their fee is added onto the total owed by the debtor, not taken out of the money paid to whoever is owed it. Have you got this in writing from the CSA? It sounds like someone is pulling a fast one....

IscreamUscream · 14/05/2014 20:34

Apparently the csa say that this is going to happen from now on. And if they have to make any visits or phone calls to the nrp then they will take a further fee. £80 is a massive hit to take especially since he hasn't paid for years and they had to chase him for being non compliant! I am so angry they have done this

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StarSwirl92 · 14/05/2014 20:38

That is a disgrace. Bailiffs are thieves imo.

IscreamUscream · 14/05/2014 20:48

The csa said to me that I was not the first one to query the payment and that others have made the same query. At no point did the csa tell me this was going to happen. I imagine this will be a very lucrative business for the Balliff company employed through the csa

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DoubtfulDoris · 14/05/2014 21:13

I am a bailiff and I am not a thief.

ifyourehoppyandyouknowit · 14/05/2014 21:16

The charge should be taken from the NRP not the person receiving the money. When bailiffs chase parking fees it's the non-payer who has to pay the fees, not the council!

IscreamUscream · 14/05/2014 21:27

I am confused as to why I didn't recieve the whole payment. I would of thought that he was liable to pay the fee added to his debt. But the payment was £80 less due to bailiff fees. It does make me wonder if he is paying more but the Balliff have been taking a fee all along. Either way the csa should be more clear on what is happening and a payment schedule should be sent out. The Baliffs will be well aware this is for child support payments and back off from penalising the rp and kids that this money is meant for.

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raffle · 14/05/2014 21:32

Why are they taking his fee from your payment? It is up to your ex-partner to meet this cost, not you (actually, your child)

Pumpkinpositive · 14/05/2014 21:49

My jaw has hit the floor. This has to be a mistake. MP, lawyer, press.

I'm in Scotland where a dickhead service provider has sent the sheriff officers round to my mate and she didn't have to pay them herself. Service provider added the cost of the sheriff officers and then some onto her outstanding bill. Which implies he was liable for the payment.

ICanSeeTheSun · 14/05/2014 21:50

www.dealingwithbailiffs.co.uk/Bailiffs-and-CSA-Child-support-agency.htm

Not that I disbelieved the op, but had to see it for myself.

IscreamUscream · 14/05/2014 22:02

I spoke to a case worker at the csa asking her why there was £80 missing from the child support. She checked her computer and told me that she could see that the Baliff had applied a fee and taken it. I had no prior knowledge of this other than seeing the text message saying the payment was going to be £20 hence why I got straight in the phone to them.

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Simile · 14/05/2014 22:09

This is morally wrong. Why should the parent with care be taken for bailiff's fees because the NRP refused to pay child maintenance?

Definitely speak to your MP.

Sigyn · 14/05/2014 22:15

No that's ridiculous.

You are not the non payer, you should not be penalised.

End of.

Please, contact your MP.

Someone upthread said they were a bailiff and they were not a thief. Good. Can you shed any light on the OP's situation please? Is this common practice and is it considered acceptable?

UncleT · 14/05/2014 22:21

Yup - get it to your MP ASAP. This is morally wrong on every level, though I would stop short of labelling all bailiffs thieves - the law is at fault here.

MrsWinnibago · 14/05/2014 22:24

This is hideous! I second those saying you must see your MP about this....it HAS to be changed! in the meantime are you now broke?

MiscellaneousAssortment · 14/05/2014 23:50

Another one saying go to your MP, this must be stopped, it's utterly immoral

LocalEditorWiganandSalford · 14/05/2014 23:56

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wonderingsoul · 15/05/2014 00:07

This released last year...

I never. Thought they would make it official...
It's a disgrace.. An utter disgrace..

They probably figured waste of space nrp who don't pay cs won't pay the fines and would waste more money taking them to court so put it on the child/resident parent

NatashaBee · 15/05/2014 01:22

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SolidGoldBrass · 15/05/2014 01:57

A lot of bailiffs are fucking thieves, actually. They are licenced extortionists and this doesn't surprise me at all. The thing is, bailiffs are private contractors, not public servants, so they are interested in their profits before anything else. Also, individual bailiffs are quite often igorant of the law, poorly trained and working on commission, so shit like this will happen. So sorry for you OP.

IscreamUscream · 15/05/2014 08:37

Wonderingsoul do you have more info on this?

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DotToDott · 15/05/2014 08:47

fucking hell, sorry no advice as such but surely there must be a way round this? effectively your child is paying off the NRP's debts.

can you get some legal advice about what you can do OP? have they said how many of your payments are going to be reduced like this?