to be absolutely furious about football chief and emails referring to women as 'gash'??

[BeanAboutTown]

Sorry if there are other threads about this, couldn't find any.

Richard Scudamore, head of the Premier League, has been merrily sending emails referring to women as 'gash' and 'skinny big-titted broads', 'irrational' and lots of other incendiary misogynist shite.

Oh but he's apologised. That's nice eh, nothing to see here

Apparently he reports to the Premier League Board, which is two people, one of whom is errrrrr Richard Scudamore

AIBU to think an apology is nowhere near enough and he should bloody well resign?

It's been reported that the Premier League's women's officer has been told not to make any comment. Wouldn't want the shiny-suited money-making boys' club to be unnecessarily disturbed by any harpies would we

Anyone for a Premier League boycott next season? (Congrats to Man City by the way) How about we all give our money to the women's game instead

If someone called me a 'gash' I would consider them an idiot and probably not give it too much more thought.

If someone whose job was promoting gender equality called me a 'gash' I would consider that person totally inappropriate for the role and someone who had a huge conflict of interest between their own personal views and their public role.

Regardless of whether we should compare sexism and racism, the analogy here would be like asking Nick Griffin to be in charge of promoting multiculturalism.

I think his comments are appalling and show a deep seated lack of respect for women - to me they show that he considered his job to be paying lip service to the idea of equality whilst "realising" (in his little world) that women are anything but equal.

Precisely, edam and Pounding. That's not hard to grasp, surely?

He is referring to women, as a group, (as a group he is responsible for bringing equality in football for) as 'gash'.

That is quite different from someone calling an individual a dick - which he is.

Just how does a man who is so utterly stupid get through an interview process for that particular job? Who interviewed him??

It isn't just an opinion is it though? Its hate speech. Talking about women as if they are lesser human beings because they have different genitalia and an X instead of a Y chromosome.

The comments about his daughters were really upsetting, and proof if it were needed that referring to women in general in a derogatory and sexually explicit way betrays attitudes which also refer to the contempt afforded to real individual women - colleagues, spouses, daughters, sisters and mothers.

Its not just having a laugh, it affects real people. Whilst I can understand why some commenters here are fed up with the comparison with society's treatment of racism, I do think it is valid to say that society's attitude towards racist hate speech has changed to consider it more unacceptable and that if a culture change is possible with race, it ought to be with sex/gender too.

I don't think its not giving sexism its own space or the equivalent of referring to me as Mrs [husband's names], though of course you are entitled to your own opinion.

We obviously shouldn't lose sight of the fact that some women do suffer both sexism and racism in discussions which suggest they affect different people (though nobody said this directly in this discussion and I'm sure you all know about intersectionality, I did feel that they were discussed in a some people suffer one, and others another, sort of way).

I think that comparison in not the same as equation, or doesn't have to be.

edam

No not just at work I mean in general? Personally i see no difference between calling a woman gash and calling a man a dick.

That's a maybe gotnotime but I presume you don't use either about colleagues? And that if you did your company wouldn't be impressed.

I wasn't aware of 'gash' as derogatory term used to insult and demean women until today, gotnotimeforthat, so have no idea how it compares to dick or prick or any of the others.

I doubt very much it is used affectionately between female friends, in the way that prick or dickhead is between men, though.

But he's not even calling a particular woman he dislikes a 'gash'. (not that that would be remotely acceptable from a person in his position). He's calling all women 'gash'. He clearly has no respect for any women. - Which when you're in a role of promoting equality is quite a quandary.

Gotnotime, do you know men who routinely would call women 'gash'? Is this normal in some areas?

littlebear no I do not. But to be honest I doubt the company would be bothered. Although that's just speculation.

Mine would be livid and I'd find myself facing a disciplinary for embarrassing them in this way.

Who do you work for, gotnotime?

The Premiership?

"Gash" isn't used to describe an individual. The term is not "a gash"

The term is "gash" used to denote women in general as no more than the split between their legs that looks ugly, like a bleeding wound. Completely sexually objectifying and demeaning. Anyone who uses it has no respect for women at all.

The extension "gashaholic" or "gashmonster" refers to a man that sees women as no more than a gaping hole to fill and be discarded afterwards.

This man has a family ? Deary me.

Vile vile vile...this kind of symbolically violent language would not be ok'd if it referred to people of different religions or ethnicities. So why should an apology cover it when its about gender? Kick him out PL.

edam

I compare them because up thread a poster mentioned how gash means vagina and that to call a woman a vagina is unacceptable because this shows that all they are only seen for their genitalia Which is sexist.

So I switch it around. Calling a man a dick or a knob is surely the same? After all you are referring to them by their genitalia.

My place of work does not concern you linerunner

"gash" and "vagina" are not equivalent in meaning

Ooh, touchy.

anyfucker

That depends on who you ask I guess, I know a lot of people that use that word use it to describe the vagina and not the woman.

I'm not saying there isn't people who use it to describe women too.

www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gash

Then they would be wrong and I would question the company you keep

This thread is actually about Scudamore's usage.

And what Anyfucker said.

anyfucker

I knew these people a long long time ago. I do not associate myself with them now.