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AIBU?

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to be utterly fucked off that DD will not fucking sleep

45 replies

PickledLily · 09/05/2014 01:57

That is all.

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steff13 · 09/05/2014 02:00

YANBU. It's frustrating. Is she sick or fussy, or is she just one of those who likes to party all night long? :)

captainproton · 09/05/2014 02:02

Oh it gets worse, they finally start sleeping through, and you lay there awake because you're so used to not sleeping.

Grrrr....

PickledLily · 09/05/2014 02:03

Has to have mummy next to her so she can scratch me to death. Have sent DH in before i lob her out of the window. Cue blood curdling screams.

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PickledLily · 09/05/2014 02:04

2 years so far. I keep telling myself she won't be doing it by the time she is a teenager. Hmm, yes you are right, I'll be up wondering where she is.

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captainproton · 09/05/2014 02:30

DS is in bed next to me with an ear infection. His sister was teething all last week and could only sleep lying on top of me with her hand in my cleavage.

It's bad enough that she does it when sleeping but she's started doing it when I carry her. She is nearly 2 and thankfully doesn't get carried often.

FanFuckingTastic · 09/05/2014 02:30

Totally feeling you.

DD still doesn't sleep well and she's nearly six. I used to get so frustrated, but then I looked at myself, I suffer from insomnia and often spend nights awake. She's a lot like me, except she doesn't need to catch up in the mornings because she's not as old and run down as I am.

So I try to see it as a shared problem and treat her how I treat myself when I can't sleep. Followed sleep hygiene guidelines for her sleeping area, and accepted that when she just wouldn't sleep, it was acceptable for her to do something until she felt tired. I got her a radio, which she liked to listen to in the dark, or a dvd to watch, or even let her play with her toys.

My conditions were to not wake anyone else up, and that she was kept safely contained to prevent night time wandering (don't ask about the time she got out and was brought home by the police!). If she was still struggling, she could come to my bed and I would let her try to sleep there, in case it was nightmares like I have. Same goes for my son, he has nasty dreams too.

When it was really hard, I coped by sleeping in the daytime, getting a nap here and there while she watched a film or played quietly. As she got older, she became less needing of my attention when she woke, and sometimes I would only have to wake and settle her with something to do, and to ensure she was safe. If I had a bad night with her, I knew she would be at school and I could catch up then.

But boy did she put me through hell while I learned to accept she was a difficult sleeper. I tried everything, hours of rapid return, lavender baths, star charts, shouting, begging, pleading, different bed time routines, the same bedtime routine constantly. She just slept through when her time came.

chocolatesolveseverything · 09/05/2014 02:32

Yanbu

Holfin · 09/05/2014 02:35

YANBU

captainproton · 09/05/2014 02:37

My DSS used to have a lot of night terrors and sleep walking. He seems to have grown out of it now, he's 12.

Sometimes he will shout out in his sleep. He's not supposed to watch TV or laptop/mobile up to an hour before sleeping.

It's supposed to help, although I'm not 100pct convinced.

His mother and sister were all the same so I think there's truth in it being genetic.

mathanxiety · 09/05/2014 02:39

YANBU, I had one in particular who didn't sleep through, and fought sleep at bedtime, until she was almost 3. When you are deprived of sleep it's all you think of. Not for nothing is it used as a torture method.

Hang in there. It will happen. In the meantime, you are doing the right thing by sending in DH and not going in yourself if you are seeing red.

wheresthelight · 09/05/2014 02:44

My dd is just shy of 9 months and having slept through since 8 weeks has spent the last 4 weeks waking every 1-2 hours and I am knackered as dp "doesn't hear her" but is also laying next to me snoring like a fricking beast.

Anyone know if sleep deprivation is a believable excuse for murder or at the very keadu

wheresthelight · 09/05/2014 02:45

Poxy phone grrr

At the very least ABH?

PickledLily · 09/05/2014 02:47

Not sleeping until they are 6? 12? Oh my lord. How do you stay sane.

No chance to catch up on sleep in the day, i work practically full time.

She sleeps like a dream in with us, but we don't. She's just woken again screaming mummy. She's had Nurofen, so don't think it's ears. Or teeth. Unless they can go on for weeks/ months?! DH has taken her into the spare room with him. What a star.

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PickledLily · 09/05/2014 02:49

Oh the snoring from DH. That really is hell! I feel your pain.

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muzzy1 · 09/05/2014 02:53

DD (2.5) currently asleep next to me with a foot in my face! Her and dh both fast asleep....me wide awake! It's like this most nights....zzzzzzz

PickledLily · 09/05/2014 03:00

Sorry you all have the same problem but it is nice to know that it isn't just me.

I'm expecting DD to blurt out 'Fucking go to sleep' any day now. I don't normally swear. Nursery is not going to be impressed.

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paxtecum · 09/05/2014 06:35

If she sleeps like a dream in your bed then maybe that is the easier option, especially if you or DH can get a good night's sleep in the spare room.

3bunnies · 09/05/2014 06:54

Does she go to sleep on her own in her own bed? We found that to be the first step. After that we had to wait until dh had time off so we could both catch up on sleep in the day so we weren't quite so shattered each night. He's a lighter sleeper than I am (I've literally slept through earthquakes, typhoons and falling from top bunk onto bottom bunk), and they woke him more than me once past the first year of feeds etc. Even so when you are so tired it is much easier to roll over and let them snuggle next to you.

On D-night lightest sleeper sleeps on first side the child encounters and as soon as child tries to get into bed they return them to their own bed with whichever settling routine they are used to. Person who hasn't woken up will be roused at some point to be told grumpily it is their turn. Send person doing first shift to sleep properly somewhere else. Repeat until sleeping in own room - generally only 2-3 nnights if they can settle themselves to sleep in the evening.
Either that or buy a super king size bed!

Good luck, lack of sleep is horrible.

PickledLily · 09/05/2014 09:50

I have to cuddle her to sleep at bedtime (anything else results in a wailing banshee and her being more awake). She has been sleeping in with us from early hours of the morning for a month or so, since she was very poorly with bronchiolitis and croup. But she's decided she's there to stay. We do have a super king sized bed. Somehow she manages to stretch across the entire thing. Or as someone else said, lie on my chest with her hand down my cleavage, so that I get back ache.

It took months and months of gradual retreat to get her to fall asleep on her own (with me holding her hand) which only lasted a few weeks (with waking at 5am for the day) before she was ill and regressed. I'm not up for control crying - she has a stronger will than I have and would keep crying all night.

The final straw last night was when I put her back into bed and she started screaming, I eventually picked her up and she LAUGHED at me. Angry

Not sure why she is so clingy at the moment.

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crazykat · 09/05/2014 10:02

I know that feeling. My ds2 is 18 months and slept through once when he was ill. This week he's taken to waking at 5am and standing shouting mummummummum and throwing his blanket/pillow/bottle at me if I don't get him out quick enough. He also wakes 1-3 times in the night and always has done.

It's really starting to get to me as I'm so tired but can't sleep when he has a 3 hour nap as I've got my other DCs to pick up from school and a ton of work to do besides. DH can't get up with him as he works long hours on construction and driving long distances to get to wherever he's working that day an would be dangerous if he was too tired.

My other 3 DCs were only waking once from about 12 months and sleeping through by now. I'm fed up of always being shattered with no energy.

ICanSeeTheSun · 09/05/2014 10:07

DS is 8 and still don't sleep, can't see it ending anytime soon.

I think my body has adjusted to it.

PickledLily · 09/05/2014 10:09

It's rough isn't it. We don't get a 3 hour nap :-( She's only recently started napping for more than 30 mins at a time. She's just one ball of energy. You see these kids that fall asleep all over the place. Not a chance with little pickle. She just keeps going. And going. And going.

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PastaandCheese · 09/05/2014 10:16

YANBU. It's a killer.

I ended up squished in with my 2.5 year old in her single bed at 5am today because I was terrified she would wake 9 week old DS who was in his basket in my room.

PastaandCheese · 09/05/2014 10:17

I think my DH is right when he says two year olds only have one mode 'permanently over excited'.

SantasLittleMonkeyButler · 09/05/2014 10:18

I feel your pain - DD is 2.9 and almost exactly the same. We've been through it all once before with DS1 who eventually slept through the night at around 6 or 7. And the first time he did, I woke up at about 4am and realised I hadn't heard from him since bedtime & assumed something must be wrong - so went running into his bedroom in a panic to check he was still breathing! Blush

He is 16 now & definitely catching up on the missed sleep from his early years! Which reminds me, I'd better go and check he's still awake as he's due in school by 11am for a revision session Smile.