to refuse to stop putting nappies in this bin?

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My elder dd goes to dance lessons on a Saturday morning. They also hold baby ballet classes that morning, which begin at age 2 so obviously many of the class are still in nappies. There's a waiting room/cafe attached to the dance studio where parents and siblings wait.

A few weeks ago I changed my toddlers nappy and put it in the bin in the bathroom. The following week there was a sign above the bin saying: 'do not put nappies in this bin, take them home.' When I was leaving the bathroom a member of staff went in and approached me a couple of minutes later saying could I remove the nappy in the bin and take it home. I hadn't changed dd so said the nappy wasn't mine, she looked disbelieving so I asked the reason for the no nappy rule.

She said the bin is small so nappies get squashed and it isn't pleasant for staff to empty. I said surely the answer is to buy a bigger bin as many paying customers of theirs are nappy-wearers. She said the rules stands and walked off. Thee following week there was a more aggressive sign with capitals and underlining and to be honest, I feel like just ignoring it. We usually go out for the day straight from dancing and, particularly in the summer, it's not great to have a dirty nappy in the car. There are no other bins nearby and, like I said, I feel if your service caters for toddlers then you should also cater your facilities to them.

Aibu to ignore whatever sign she's dreamed up this week and use the bin anyway?

Yes I empty and bag it first nanny

My dd is older so toddler and I are there for two hours while she dances.

The cafe is part of the dance school, not a separate business.

Just flush them

I think they need to provide a proper bin.

Good thread

YANBU to refuse the premises owners request if that's what you want to do. But I wouldn't be surprised if you were politely asked to leave the premises and not come back...

Removing the nappy discussion from the equation as I think it's a red herring:

• You are on private premises
• You have been asked to stop doing something that causes inconvenience, work and unpleasantness for the people who work there.
• You have been asked 3 times.

yeah, YABU and it is perfectly reasonable for the business owner not to allow you in the building.

I might take a crap in a bag and leave it in your bathroom bin.

Can't you put it in an outside bin?

The cafe may well be run by a contractor even though it is on dance school premises. Plenty of cafés do not have nappy bins.

Presumably many of the two year olds are only there for the duration of the class, or the class and a quick drink, so often don't need a change.

I can honestly say I have never taken a nappy home with me, I always put it in the bin wherever I am, it would never have occurred to me to take it home!

IMO, nappies are just like any other rubbish which is unpleasant to be emptied - nappy, sanpro, food scrapings, ashtrays etc.

Ive worked in bars and restaurants emptying ashtrays, the ash would waft up and smell absolutely disgusting, plus you run the risk of breathing in other people's fag ash and yet no one would expect people to put out their fag in their pocket and carry the ash around with them till they get home! If a bin is provided is the responsibility of the people who own/run the place to dispose of it, that's part of the job! Next you'll be banning people from putting anything bar slightly damp papers towels in a bin! Ridiculous :/

Why on earth would a bin not get emptied more often than every 3/4 weeks, especially if it's a small one? They should provided appropriate waste disposal :)

"Ive worked in bars and restaurants emptying ashtrays, the ash would waft up and smell absolutely disgusting, plus you run the risk of breathing in other people's fag ash and yet no one would expect people to put out their fag in their pocket and carry the ash around with them till they get home!"

Er - a) that's not comparable and b) there is a smoking ban.

Good god I am glad I am too old for all that child birth stuff.

I am actually quite stunned at the 'I don't take nappies home with me' postings. Really? You leave your child's shit for a whole range of total strangers to have to deal with? That is gross! Entitled and rude!

An outside bin in the street? Great.... so hygienic and pleasant for passers by.

A bin in a shop/cafe... Wonderful, so thoughtful of you to share your motherhood with us all.

Ashtrays and sanitary bins aside (one no longer exists in public and the other is meant for small objects and gets emptied according to need/fullness), your child's crappy nappy is yours. Take it home and deal with it.

And as I said earlier, if the place you visit does have a nappy bin, fall to your knees and say thank you, leave them a tip. They are volunteering to take on an expense to save you the hassle of dealing with your own life choices.

Mothers today! Tut!!!

Yabu!
You are being selfish and entitled. They've asked you too not do it.

Ive worked in bars and restaurants emptying ashtrays, the ash would waft up and smell absolutely disgusting, plus you run the risk of breathing in other people's fag ash and yet no one would expect people to put out their fag in their pocket and carry the ash around with them till they get home!

Um, I don't think you're making the point you think you're making. A primary reason smoking in bars was banned was to protect staff from taking unnecessary risks with their health.

Name changed for this as I don't want to be outed in my normal name.

YABVU and entitled. I run preschool music classes and this has been an issue for me in the past. The majority of our customers are lovely and considerate, but there is always the odd entitled one like you, who feels that it is up to someone else to clear up after them because they are a paying customer.

Some things I expect as part of the job, like wiping instruments, constantly washing soft props, having a quick hoover at the end of the session.

But, in addition to that, why should I clear up left-behind coffee cups, snack packets and dumped nappies?

If you leave nappies behind my options are:

1. Take them away myself. (this would probably have me retching as I am no good with other people's kids poo/wee).

1. Leave them for the church hall or community centre and let some volunteer or low-paid administrator deal with them.

1. Get a special nappy disposal facility. As I work across a number of venues, this would be very costly and would either cut into my margins or be added to customers' class fees - thereby penalising the considerate customers who remove their child's bodily waste.

You also mention that the school runs 40 classes a week x 25 children X £6, the assumption being that the ballet school owner is raking it in, and therefore should cough up for this facility.

For starters, I doubt that all of the classes are fully booked. If they are, then the proprietor is obviously providing a great service and deserves to make a good return.

Secondly, only a small proportion of that six quid will be making its way to the proprietor, once she has paid for premises costs (rent/mortgage, heating, lighting, cleaning), insurance, staff costs including the poor bugger plonking away at the piano in the corner, marketing, administration costs, etc.

YUK!
Why do you think every other child and parent should be subjected to your kid's stinky shit!!

Yanbu-if they're happy to make money from having little ones attend the classes, then they need to provide the correct facilities. If they can't provide those facilities- then they should not have the classes there.

So you are expecting them to clean up your child's dirty nappies.

So if a child who has just had their polio vac, would you expect them to clear those nappies up as well ?

The reasons sanitary buns don't get emptied more than every 3-4 weeks is that they are designed to cope with sanitary items not poo.
Poo stinks and gets worse as time goes on. Take it home.

Posted too soon. And emptying more frequently costs more money and it is expensive to get waste disposed of especially for a business.

YOu would not be unreasonable to ask them if they've thought of looking into installing a nappy bin. Or to think that they should do that.

You would be very unreasonable to keep leaving your kid's shit for them to deal with as things stand.

Do you think the person whose job it is to clear the bins is likely to be the person who has decided not to get a nappy bin? I don't.

Yabu if you do not like the request for you to take your child's soiled nappy home try and find an alternative class that accommodates this fairly specific need.

It is not an unreasonable or unusual request on the part of the dance school,

"I never take used nappies home" If parents can't stand the thought of disposing of their kid's used, dirty nappies properly (not in an open, public bin) then why should other people have to deal with them?

Nappies are not just any old rubbish. If you work in a care home then they are considered hazardous waste.

If you can't deal with the poo then don't have a baby ffs!

Flush what you can, and bag up the rest to take home with you and dispose of neatly, as generations of parents have done before you. You are probably one of the entitled so & so's that used to let their dogs crap all over the pavement in front of my son's old school & nursery. Dirty nappies and dog poop are my two biggest bug bears when out and about as both have the potential to cause considerable harm to human health and to spoil an otherwise lovely day.

Other people want to use the cafe facilities in pleasant surroundings, and don't want to clear up after YOUR child. Nor do they to have to pass the extortionate expense of clinical waste disposal onto the majority of perfectly clean and decent customers just for the sake of the odd utterly dirty cow like yourself.

You have now been asked three times. Do you have no sense of shame at all? If I were the owner you'd be getting a polite flea in your ear asking you not to return to my establishment by now.

YBU.

Well if I follow MN I am really wondering why in earth anyone us bothering to have nappy bins at disposal for their customers. You know the ones you find ... At softly, swimming pool, restaurant/cafe, any NT place you visit. I mean surely that cost money and people are suppose to take their nappies back home so why bother???

Oh yes I remember now. It's a service provided to customers so that it's make their life easier, they want to come back again. It's family friendly too.
I am really wondering why a dance school with a cafe would think it could helpful to their customers. So few a lot of them have toddlers anyway...

OP the wAy this woman talked to you was aggressive and rude. And that tends to rub people the wrong way and make you think you want to do the exact thing they don't want you to do.
And if I was at the place of the school owner, I would want to make sure parents feel welcome too. A cafe is a good idea. Sanitary bins and nappy bins would be the minimum in my opinion.