To think that people who buy concert tickets just to sell them at 4 times the price are just greedy fucking thieves

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And are the scum of the earth...

Greedy, but not thieves.

But there is a market out there for such tickets, so unless people stop buying them, it will always happen.

Yes it sucks but it won't ever stop.

Apparently Kate Bush tickets are selling for over a grand each so if someone is willing to pay that, the black market will exist (eyes up the 4 tickets I have, not seriously mind!)

Nope. I see nothing wrong with this.

OP, your eyes would water, then, if you knew the mark up of most retail items.

I think what's sad is when tickets sell out in an hour because they are bought by people who want to make a fast buck, or who want to impress a corporate client, not by genuine fans.

yanbu. I fully agree with you.

Supply and demand...
Not particularly different to buying a house, seeing it has gone up in value and selling it for a higher price

parents were paying over the odds for 1d tickets I even saw some tickets for Rod stewart ( i think) being on sale for 100s on ebay
so these people are greedy buggers out to make money Fair enough imo but if people are daft enough to pay over the odds for tickets then there will always be a market for this

I agree with suburbianRhonda I hate that there is multi buy on concert sites I dont think it should be allowed

How are they thieves? They aren't doing anything illegal. They aren't stealing anything from anyone. They are buying something and legitimately selling it on (unless they are breaking any rules in which case they should be reported). They would stop doing it if people stopped buying. So who is at fault? The person for buying at 4 times the value? The person for selling at 4 times the value? The organiser for not having a system that stops it?

Whether it is fair is another matter. Clearly it isn't fair. But something being unfair doesn't make it illegal. If enough people are cross enough about it, that is for organisers of events to sort out and they will only do that if it is in their interests to do so. They could refuse to allow tickets to be sold on, make them named and refuse entry if the name doesn't match, etc. It would take pressure from the public but there is no reason it could not be done.

YABU and I think you know it. selling what you own is not theft. Selling it for what the market will bear is not greed.

Why the promoters do not sell them for vastly more than they do I cannot imagine.

I forgot to book when Paul Rodgers and Queen toured but I was glad to find tickets on ebay - 3 times the price but worth it for us.

I'd reserve terms like 'scum of the earth' for people who are actually doing something harmful to other people, not those who are doing something perfectly legal that anyone with the inclination could do.

I can see why it's frustrating having to pay over the odds for something, but no one needs to go to a concert. Tickets are very much luxury items that are only worth what someone is willing to pay for them.

I can't see the problem.

But there wouldn't be a market for them if this didn't happen. They are the ones inflating the prices. . The prices don't inflate themselves. The prices are in fact static.. They do not increase depending on demand.

This is it though. Now the 12 year old misses out because tickets that should be have cost her £30 cost £100.

It's not the same as buying a house. I don't have people rushing to buy the house first so they can quadruple the price and put it back on the market an hour later.

I think they should not be able to sell the tickets for 3 months or somethng like that. No instant turnaround.

Something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

They offer it. It does not have to be bought. If it was not bought, they would have made a massive loss and would stop doing it.

The power to stop it is with the people who want the tickets. Yes, it means they would miss out on concerts or, more likely, that they would be sold last minute at original value as the person who'd bought them up realised they were about to lose their money.

Whether it is fair or not, whether it ought to be done or not is neither here nor there because the reality is that if there is a way to make money, someone is always going to find it and you are never going to get all people to say oh well, I could make some money in this perfectly legal way but really it isn't very fair, so I won't do it. So that leaves people campaigning for changes in rules to make reselling tickets illegal or boycotting resellers so they make a loss and stop doing it.

I agree OP.
A few years ago I tried to buy tickets for a capital radio "party in the park" event. I was on the website the minute the tickets went on sale. Couldn't get on, all tickets gone within minutes.

Later that day they were on sale at 10 times the price on various other websites.

This was an event aimed at teenagers and I think those tickets must have been bought in bulk for no other reason than to exploit kids.

It does seem a bit low. But thinking about it, I am in no position to judge. I made a (small) killing a few years ago on some dummies, of all things. They had been discontinued and were going for mad money on Ebay (think £50-£80 per two-pack). I knew this because my DS would only take that kind of dummy. Anyway I managed to get him onto alternative dummies but a couple of months later I found six packs of these coveted dummies in a small rural Morrisons

So yes, I snapped them up at £4 a pack and sold them for £50-odd each

Was madness but hey, nobody had to buy them.

Totally agree. I fucking hate it.

If only tickets couldn't be resold. I've been to a number of gigs where only the named purchaser of the tickets could collect them from the venue, and they needed to show photo ID. It's not the most workable solution, but it means only genuine fans get the tickets.

No 12 year old needs to go to a concert though. If they miss out because tickets are sold out, then it really isn't the end of the world.

The buck has to stop with the organiers. They either find a different method of selling the tickets (Buying them from the ticket counter at Our Price, anyone?!) or put on more dates so that the supply matches the demand
But they don't, because 'selling out in an hour' is part of the hype and appeal of most of these concerts and they'd rather that than adding extra nights with extra seats

sparechange you are right I dont even think places have box offices anymore well not for concerts I like you used to go along to the local music shop (wasn't our price) buy my ticket and that was that, now it is all automated clicking and if they are gone they are gone usually within seconds,

I think it is unfair and greedy.

Some peoples jobs are to sit with a bunch of credit/debit cards and the second the tickets go on sale they buy them all. Then a few minutes later they are on other websites for 3 or 4 times the original price. How can that be allowed?

The performers/venues dont care because they get the money anyway.

What about people who buy up all the clothes from the designer collections at H&M and put those straight on eBay for people to buy at 5x the original price?
Are they as bad?

urm I have seen primark clothes on ebay marked as vintage and people bid on them

I asked a similar question last week about Frozen merchandise and was told "it's called capitalism, hth"

And called naive. I suppose that is true, but like you, I don't like it when people seek to profit from kids' stuff.

I guess it's the way of the world and the idealists just have to get faster with our credit cards when things go on sale.

Reserve your bile for the admin charges applied by the likes of TicketMaster. Why do they charge per ticket? Our last purchase ended up with a charge higher than the price of another ticket. I go to the box office if at all possible but that's usually not an option.

You have every right to resent it, OP, and think that ticket sales