..to think that it's wrong that my daughter shouldn't have to stink of cigs?

[neiljames77]

She's got a job as a care assistant and a lot of the houses and flats she visits have smokers living there. One old woman in particular is a chain smoker, as is her daughter who is always there. They never even open a window. I said the laws of smoking in the workplace should still apply even if it's someone's home.
AIBU because some of them haven't got long left and see it as their only pleasure?

Yabu

This is an impossible situation, going into people's environments is different to going into a public place

I thought it wasn't just public places but actual work environments.

Sorry but yabu. You can't force people to not smoke in their own homes. However, she can work on her 'authoritative tone'.

In you breeze, 'Morning Mrs Davies, i'm just opening the windows to let some air in'.

How long is your daughter there for? If it's just a quick visit to make sure all is ok or a half hour visit then I think these people should refrain from smoking out of politeness.

I though the laws around smoking in the workplace did cover people's homes! But I could be wrong.

Your dd should ask her employer.

I agree with you, I work in a role that means I have to go inside people's homes and sometimes stay for a considerable amount of time completing paperwork, I have no intention of passively smoking so if they don't ask if I mind, they can come to me at my place of work at my convenience which is not practical or efficient, but why should I suffer in order that they can receive my service? I appreciate this is not possible in your daughter's role, but the client should appreciate in order to receive her help, they can refrain whilst she is visiting.

Does the law not have a clause in it regarding working in people's homes?

What is it you want?

Your daughter can open a few windows or change her place of work.

In any case she's a grown adult so why are you involving yourself in what others do in their own homes?

Regardless of the law I think this is a really difficult situation. I used to work in a pub before the laws changed and ended up with chest problems all the time. Agree with RedPony.

She has to either, make them breakfast, dinner, take them to the toilet or bath and put them to bed, depending on what time she has to visit.

I think it might cover people's homes.

But anyway she could just ask to open a window, it would do them all a bit of good.

Nursing homes are called out as a specific exemption from the Smoking Ban, so YANBU to mind her being smoked on, but you cannot legally object.

I agree that they shouldn't smoke whole she's there but she can't dictate what they do the rest of the time

I would hate to come home stinking of other people's stale smoke... She should check out where she stands with her employer. Yes, people have the right to smoke in their own homes ( and frankly that's where they should smoke if they choose to make a stink) but when other people are having to be there on a work basis rather than choosing to visit, it does rather change things

YABU
Im a massive anti smoking person but fully support people's right to smoke in their own homes
surely your dd realised that this would be part of the job?
if she doesn't like it, then she can always get another job

She shouldn't put up with it - she should go in and either ask them to stop smoking or open a window if she needs to. if they don't like it they can complain about her. agree she needs to be authoritative and not put up with it, it's not on. i am sure if she simply opened a window or asked someone not to smoke they would oblige.

Oh, sorry - she's not working in nursing homes! (gets glasses...)

Private homes are also an exemption - see note:

Private homes. However, if part of a home is used as a workplace, for example a room set aside for childminding or music lessons, that room must be smokefree. Where work is undertaken solely to provide personal care for a person living in the dwelling, to assist with domestic work or to maintain the building, the private dwelling is not considered to be a workplace and is exempt from the smokefree legislation.

Aw, that would be horrible, I wouldn't like to be among smoke, but previous posters are right - as she's going into their homes it's different.

My dh has rules where they're not allowed to smoke in place of work including work vehicles, but I remember this subject coming up & he said when visiting some clients, the client can smoke (if the meeting is in their home) but the employee (dh) can't. I bet your dd wouldn't be allowed to smoke in the clients home (I know she doesn't smoke but just saying how unfair it is)

I think it would be polite if they refrained while she's there. It's up to her to ask them or open a window.

Her call but that's as far as she can go. It's their home.

YABU. One of the perils of the job, I'm afraid. I work with mental health service users, many of whom chain smoke as a coping mechanism,. Even if they don't smoke while I'm there, in many homes, the air is thick with smoke anyway.

Could they buy an air purifier to have in the room they smoke?

One of the other carers asked the chain smoker if she'd refrain from smoking half an hour before her visit and then wait until she left. She got told to f. off as it's her home.
It's ok. The law has been clarified. Thank you.
She really likes all the people she visits but just doesn't like her clothes stinking of smoke. She'll have to get another job I suppose.

Sorry, I am confused. Do you want your dd to smell of cigs?

She's giving up her job because of one home?!

FGS tell her not to be so stupid. Smelly people are part of working with the public.

ilovesooty - I wouldn't usually bother myself with what people do in their own home but she's my daughter and I just wanted to see where she stood and wanted to help her.