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Circumcision: A Social Status in the UK ?

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Amazonia · 25/04/2014 09:06

Curiously in the UK, circumcision is now a matter of social class. While the "ordinary" folks rarely circumcise, circumcision is prevalent in the upper class as well as in the Royal family.

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BaronDent · 06/05/2014 19:51

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Caitlin17 · 06/05/2014 19:52

"The reason we surgically correct what is problematic with the human male is to protect the human female and human babies, whom we supposedly value more than females of other species.

You mean what is problematic in your opinion

And your going on and on about"inactivism" is tedious. In what way does not agreeing with you about this translate in to being in favour of FGM?

UncleT · 06/05/2014 19:58

Problematic with the human male? Oh dear math, plumming new depths of absurdity and sexism today, eh? Still making hysterical statements about people who point out ANY degree of commonality in issues pertaining to genital mutilation in both sexes, even though it's clear that the two aren't being equated fully, eh? Basically, still being a rampant misandrogynist who knows better than any man which bits of their body should be arbitrarily removed without consent? I'm beginning to think that you are genuinely just out to wind us all up and cause grave offence.

mathanxiety · 06/05/2014 19:58

I'm fairly sure your thoughts on evolution fit his description.

mathanxiety · 06/05/2014 20:01

There is no such thing as genital mutilation in both sexes. Your continued assertion that FGM and male circumcision are equivalent is disgraceful misogyny. It is offensive to the highest degree to equate FGM with male circumcision.

Your use of the term hysterical confirms my assertion of your misogyny.

UncleT · 06/05/2014 20:03

No it isn't, it's application of the English language. 'Mutilation' is not solely the preserve of FGM - that's your completely inaccurate and absurd projection.

UncleT · 06/05/2014 20:03

Buy a dictionary.

mathanxiety · 06/05/2014 20:04

My point about vaccination and evolution is that surely if we respected evolution we would let the grim reaper reap away and not bother with prophylactic measures. Those of us who survived would be all the stronger.

mathanxiety · 06/05/2014 20:05

Your posts that seek to equate FGM and male circumcision are pure and vile misogyny. If you keep on repeating your insult to victims of FGM I will keep on repeating this truth.

FourForksAche · 06/05/2014 20:05

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BaronDent · 06/05/2014 20:07

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UncleT · 06/05/2014 20:07

My posts that keep equating them?? No, there actually are none of those. There are, however, posts where I explicitly say that they are not to be 'equated' (dictionary - see difference with 'comparison') and that FGM is clearly far worse. You're making up bollocks again.

mathanxiety · 06/05/2014 20:11

BaronDent, you are free to disagree with me of course. You have the right to be as wrong as wrong can be.

You have no right to post offensive and misogynist thoughts, however.

BaronDent · 06/05/2014 20:12

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mathanxiety · 06/05/2014 20:12

Same goes for you, UncleT.

mathanxiety · 06/05/2014 20:16

If you are trying to assert that there is in fact equivalence between male circumcision and FGM and anyone who disagrees with that is a misandrist then I suggest you investigate FGM.

Perhaps you don't know what you are talking about? Perhaps you don't know what FGM entails? Perhaps you know nothing of its effects? There can be no other explanation besides willful and unabashed ignorance for continued efforts to equate FGM and male circumcision, apart from misogyny.

thebodylovesspring · 06/05/2014 20:18

Mysogynistic and inactivisim all bollicks really isn't it.

It's routine mutulation without consent for no medical reason.

Just because it's of course far worse for females doesn't make it right for males.

UncleT · 06/05/2014 20:18

Sorry, which thoughts are those? You obviously have no problem doing so about men, and apparently love falsely accusing others of precisely what you claim to abhor. I have not 'equated' the two - have explicitly stated that one can't and that they're very different in terms of gravity. Which part of that are you taking to be what you describe? The thread is there to read - you're lying about what I've said, and everyone here knows it.

FourForksAche · 06/05/2014 20:20

Math [http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1110570412000409 mgm other than circumcision without consent]]

just a quick look, I'm sure you could find more, with your excellent research skills.

I also have a close family member who believes he was mutilated after a circumcision without consent. I am sure that any woman who suffered an operation without consent would not be criticised for feeling mutilated, so I'd appreciate it if you did not try to tell me how my relative is allowed to feel about what happened to him.

FourForksAche · 06/05/2014 20:21

apologies for link fail

mgm other than circumcision without consent

thebodylovesspring · 06/05/2014 20:22

You can't defend or make a sensible case for mutilating little boys so you spend your time telling us how much worse mutulating little girls is.

we know that

But mutilating little boys is vile too.

UncleT · 06/05/2014 20:24

Thanks body. Apparently math has difficulty understanding how people can understand that a is far worse than b, but that b is still terrible. Horribly complex stuff. Wink

FourForksAche · 06/05/2014 20:25

and, thebody, there's more than just circumcision going on, which makes the statement "There is no such thing as genital mutilation in both sexes" incorrect, ignorant and offensive.

BaronDent · 06/05/2014 20:33

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Caitlin17 · 06/05/2014 20:49

Blimey. I posted early on in this thread and only popped back to see why it was still going.

Brokenhearted's post summed it up perfectly.

I'm going to hide this thread now although a bit of me would like math to answer my question if she knows of any other part of the human body which is so badly designed that it has to be surgically altered in all babies.

The rest of you- it's nice to meet you, see you around.