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For wanting to stick pins in my eyes when people write "on route"

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gratefulforwhatihavegot · 24/04/2014 22:27

If you don't understand how to write something then don't try and be clever.

OP posts:
bloominbumpy · 25/04/2014 15:03

No I can see how but its not about dyslexia so I don't see how offended you can really get?

People on here are often talking about children having "behavioural problems" I dont start going hang on a minute thats offensive to those with autism or asd when it is something that is quite often applies to those individuals. If that was the case every time we open our mouths to say anything we would have to aay nothing because in some way its bound to relate to some kind of disability or discrimination.

SanityClause · 25/04/2014 15:05

My MIL writes "on suite".

Just another reason to hate her, really.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 25/04/2014 15:06

Well, because spelling issues are strongly associated with dyslexia, so some people see the joking about it and take it as a joke on them. Same with people who are sensitive about lack of education, obviously.

I have to say, I'm not quite sure why you're proud of the fact you don't stand up for people with autism or asd, either. Confused

I will repeat that I didn't think the majority of this thread was offensive at all, since I'm not sure you saw that, and my post was just intended to explain why some people might be upset, rather than to say we should never talk about language.

badtime · 25/04/2014 15:11

LRD, the thing about 'flutter-by' becoming butterfly seems to be a false/folk etymology.

I can't find a good link, but the German word is 'Schmetterling', derived from an eastern European word for cream, and an old Dutch (or possibly Old Dutch) word for butterfly was 'boterschijte', meaning butter-shite. It's all about the dairy.

www.insects.org/ced4/etymology.html

fidelineish · 25/04/2014 15:12

Shock @ Sanity (you're joking, right?)

bloominbumpy · 25/04/2014 15:13

I have to say, I'm not quite sure why you're proud of the fact you don't stand up for people with autism or asd, either. confused

Ahhh lovely attempt to make me sound like a monster!..

Yes because what i said was " i don't stand up for people with autism and asd"

applause to you for your ability to twist words.

my point stands if we CONSTANTLY went round defending every disability then no one would ever open their mouths in the first place because it's bound to offend someone.. can't help the feeling i'm repeating myself here.

Funny how my intrigue into how a post about the phrase en route turned into the dyslexia defence line has got up a few noses...

Clearly people are always looking for something to argue about Hmm

LRDtheFeministDragon · 25/04/2014 15:16

bed - oh, I'm sad about that! I want it to be true. I believe you, though.

blooming - erm ... come on, I wasn't trying to make you sound like a monster, I just don't see it as a positive quality. I understand that you do.

I do see that there's a balance, but in this case, the dyslexia issue was pretty obviously germane to the thread, so I think it is an overreaction to make out that people shouldn't have spoken up about it.

As for people looking to argue ... well, it is a discussion forum!

bloominbumpy · 25/04/2014 15:24

see what as a positive quality? The ability to turn every discussion into an argument? because they are 2 different things lets be honest here.

i would defend to the ends of the earth anyone with a disability of any kind if i felt that it was needed because something was being aimed at THEM or their DISABILITY specifically.

So yes without knowing me at all you said that you think that i am proud to not defend someone with a disability... does make me sound like a monster when i am have fact the complete opposite belief of why you implied.

TillyTellTale · 25/04/2014 15:24

I agree with LRD and others. This is connected to dyslexia, and the connection isn't esoteric. I mentioned that I correct my husband on the last page. The reason for all those mistakes? His dyslexia. When we first met, he hadn't been diagnosed yet, and I used to be rather horrible to him about it. (Look, I was a teenager, and I didn't realise I was lucky to have such perfect spelling, and his dyslexia was mild enough that it hadn't been diagnosed. So, I thought he was lazy... I was a stupid prat.)

It isn't a bad thing for people to keep in mind that dyslexia can be a root cause for things that make us wince.

bloominbumpy · 25/04/2014 15:25

ha talk about spelling... my last sentence made NO sense..

Hopefully you'll get the gist.

InAnotherLife · 25/04/2014 15:26

My DH says "thigh-land" and "thigh food" (instead of Thailand etc). I've told him, but he's been saying it wrong for so long he can't/doesn't want to change now. Confused

LRDtheFeministDragon · 25/04/2014 15:28

I don't see how you can say people turn every discussion into an argument.

I think it's a positive thing, to talk about how people with disabilities might feel about comments, including comments the makers didn't realize might be upsetting. That doesn't mean we have to have an argument about it and it doesn't mean I don't see why people want to post about malapropisms, because they are funny. Obviously they are!

I did get the impression you thought it was a positive thing that, despite having a personal connection to people with autism, you wouldn't choose to respond to posts the way some have here about dyslexia. Yes, I don't know you and may be misunderstanding, but actually, I think we do disagree here, right?

I think it's important to respond, because the alternative is that people will go on merrily upsetting others with disabilities. Most people aren't actually arseholes and don't want to give offence, you know.

Icimoi · 25/04/2014 15:28

The title of the thread I'm talking about had a quote from another posters thread title. That's pretty shitty IM

No, it didn't. I noticed the thread because it happened to be about something that particularly grates for me. I won't quote the original title, but it referred to something quite specific whereas the thread title in Pedants' Corner was generic. For instance, if the original thread title had been "AIBU to like eating cake" then the second title was "AIBU to like doing something".

It's quite strange when people attack a poster for (in their mistaken recollection) attacking someone else, and it's not too impressive when people change the facts in order to bolster that attack.

usualsuspectt · 25/04/2014 16:00

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Icimoi · 25/04/2014 16:03

What's interesting about this type of thread is the way people become so aggressively defensive in a way that doesn't happen with other threads where people talk about things that annoy them. It almost becomes a crime to express, even in the mildest terms, discomfort at some sort of spelling or grammar usage that is unquestionably wrong. Yet we have all spent several years in school at great expense to the taxpayer or our families, and most parents round here seem to be pretty anxious that their own children get a decent education. Despite that, people seem to be very aggressive about people's right to ignore that education.

I wonder, if someone came on here proclaiming that, say, Shakespeare wrote "The Old Curiosity Shop" and others said no, actually, it was Dickens - would there then be a load of posters piling in saying how rude and anal and pedantic that was and defending the OP's right to get the facts wrong?

OwlCapone · 25/04/2014 16:05

No sign of the first time poster OP recently?

halfdrunktea · 25/04/2014 16:07

YANBU!

And "could of" etc annoys me too.

Icimoi · 25/04/2014 16:17

Usual, I'm glad you seem to concede that your previous version of the facts was wrong, though you could say it's fairly shitty then to maintain your complaint despite that. It was not obvious who the thread was aimed at, because it referred to the use of a particular error that comes up quite regularly on MN and elsewhere, and the OP was if anything commenting on the fact that it was becoming more frequent. You really can't say that a comment that something happens often must have been a criticism of one particular thread alone. If you are going to complain about that thread, you really have to complain about the whole of Pedants' Corner and much of AIBU, because it's all within the same pattern.

fidelineish · 25/04/2014 17:18

It almost becomes a crime to express, even in the mildest terms, discomfort at some sort of spelling or grammar usage that is unquestionably wrong.

Nonsense.

It was the sneery tone that was unpalatable.

msrisotto · 25/04/2014 17:30

This is a pronunciation one.

People who say nitch, when they mean niche.

fidelineish · 25/04/2014 17:32

If I hadn't already loudly disapproved of this whole undertaking I might be tempted to agree with you there msr Blush

LRDtheFeministDragon · 25/04/2014 17:42

Yes, ici, almost a crime. Sad It must be really difficult for you.

We must get a support group sorted out. You could call it 'Pedants' Corner' or something like that.

BeeInYourBonnet · 25/04/2014 17:43

So I guess, based on the total sense of humour failure this thread, Del boy was dyslexic, and we should ban only fools and horses.

Mange toots!!!!!

lau55 · 25/04/2014 17:43

I don't get what's wrong with "London bound"?

PurplePunkPrincess · 25/04/2014 17:45

I hate when check is used instead of cheque, especially as it's often in a professional manner Hmm