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to think it is incredibly rude to let yourself in the back of someone else's house

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bedraggledmumoftwo · 19/04/2014 16:23

We don't have a good relationship with my in-laws. I don't want to dripfeed so will explain the backstory. MIL is toxic, fil is lovely but guided by mil whispering venom into his ear, which has led to some rows between my dh and them, largely since dd1 was born and they decided they wanted to impose on us more without any thought for when it was convenient to us. They didn't speak to us at all for three months until i brokered a peace deal against my better judgement After that we deliberately tried to keep them at a reasonable distance and agreed to have them stay for the weekend every three months. I know to some of you that will sound awful, but given we only saw them once a year previously and that dh works away all week and only has the weekends when he is often still doing work stuff but at home to spend time with his kids, give me a break and see all the various people that want to visit, which includes my parents, his sister, his grandparents, my grandmother and our friends. So actually that was about as much as we could realistically offer or bear . We did face time etc as well so things were ok.

We kept this up for a year, until they suddenly declared when i was pregnant that they were house hunting in our town! We had been carefully managing expectations and kept our distance to avoid ww3, yet they somehow got the idea it was a good idea for them to move hundreds of miles to live on our doorstep! After much soul searching DH decided it was better to say something to nip this in the bud rather than pretend we were ok with it and let them waste money and leave everything and everyone they knew, including FILs disabled brother, only to be surprised that we weren't suddenly able to spend all our time with them. He had a difficult conversation explaining that we weren't comfortable with it and said that even if they lived next door we would only be able to see them once a month. They were understandably upset by this and DH was certain they would never speak to him again. But no, within a fortnight they had sold their house and offered on a house in Bedraggledville. He didn't say anything else, what more could he say really? So for the next few months we got biweekly emails about the trials and tribulations of their house move, until they finally moved in the week dd2 was born just what we needed!

Anyway, needless to say, they arrived fully expecting to see a lot of the dds us, and with the timing it was impossible to stick to once a month without being really rude. I am now just trying to make the best of a bad situation, although my blood boils when i think about heinous things MIL has said and done in the past or the fact that they have imposed themselves on us against our express wishes. However, my biggest concern, given i am on mat leave, was that they would start popping over uninvited, or generally making themselves at home. They haven't done the former, probably because they badger us for invitations so much and are getting what they want and seeing dd at least once a week. But today i looked up from my lunch to see MIL coming in the back door. We were expecting them this afternoon btw. I asked if DH was round the front and let them round, she said no, the gate was open Now the side gate is not visible from the drive or front door, they must have specifically gone to check if it was open BEFORE going to ring the front doorbell, which is much closer to their car. I assume they probably do this every time, as we started keeping it locked around the time they decided to move, so this is the first time it hasn't been locked since they have been here as DH was doing stuff in the garden. I am so furious. They know that i am breastfeeding and usually pump while eating my lunch, so they could easily have walked in on me with my boobs out. But that's not the point, i should not have to worry about people walking in on me in the comfort of my own home. If someone is already here, in the garden with us, fine, but if you are just arriving you ring the damn doorbell to announce your presence. i thought vampires needed to be invited in but apparently not this one!

ugh. Sorry. Rant over. Given the relationship is strained at best, and especially given they know i am pumping and bfing so may have my tits out and that we keep the gate locked therefore don't expect people to let themselves through it as a matter of course, AIBU unreasonable to expect them to use the front door?

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wowfudge · 20/04/2014 09:52

YADNBU - for goodness sake, no one should walk into your home like that. My parents would only ever try the door if they'd rung the bell, knocked and rung me with no answer and thought I was in and there was something wrong.

Ask your DH what he wants to do. Sounds to me as though you have tried for his sake, but MIL is awful and hasn't learned. Tell her straight and then leave her to it.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 20/04/2014 09:55

I think it all sounds a bit OTT really. In the first place, what the hell are you doing with your back door and gate unlocked and open and then complaining that someone walked into the house? ANYONE could get in. With children around it's extemely risky. You're lucky it was just your PIL. I'm guessing they saw the gardening stuff out and assumed would be better to go the back way, rather than have you unlocking the front up it risk boy hearing the front door if you're in the back (as sometimes happens when we're in the back garden.)

I also really do not understand why you can't just have said "blimey, MIL, you gave me quite a fright there walking in like that, can you ring the front door bell next time?" No doubt she was thinking that if your back gate was open, and your back door too then it was to be assumed you were fine with them going in that way, especially as you were expecting them. It's not like they dropped in unannounced. You WERE expecting them and your back gate/door WAS open. DH had been gardening in the back so it was obvious someone was around.

I'm really not getting the big deal here.

RigglinJigglin · 20/04/2014 09:56

OP I'm with you. The ILs don't live very far away and we see them once a month for an hour or two..... But then, I don't like all the weekly visits having been brought up like that. It always felt like a chore.

If they walked into our house I'd be fuming. If you don't like it, tell them.

FryOneFatManic · 20/04/2014 09:58

bedraggled Be wary of getting too set in stone over the once a week with the ILs.

Once the routine is set, you'll struggle to change it for any reason, including once the DCs are at school. Make sure you vary the routine enough so that it's NOT a routine.

Given the way they lack respect for your boundaries, it's clear it's all about them, and if you find yourself having to cancel sometime, even for a very valid reason like a Dr's appt, I would guess they'll be liable to strop. It'll be about them, not about what's best for your DCs.

In fact I'd start to miss the odd week now, so they get used to it being irregular.

And if anyone gets shitty with this, there was a thread not so long ago where the family had been going to the ILs for sunday lunch for so long that it was set in stone. The OP on that thread was being given support to break the cycle, because they got very little family time without the ILs, the DS was starting school (I think) and what about weekend parties, the ILs clearly expected the DS to miss those to visit them, and IIRC they even got stroppy if the family went on holiday, thereby missing the visits.

Don't feel you have to just suck everything up. Let your DH be a guide to how you do this. If he isn't interested in seeing them more than once a month, don't knock yourself out to compensate.

Objection · 20/04/2014 09:58

The worst that I got from your post is that they are socially awkward but I can appreciate entirely that they are worse.
However, they are family (yes. Family. You married into it and they are definitely family to your children) and it sounds like they just want to spend time with their grandchildren and you seem to think that that is unreasonable. Being rude is unreasonable, of course, but you are going on about "letting them" see you DCs with a slight undertone of control.
They moved to be closer to you so they could spend more time with family. that isn't a crime and could even be interpreted as nice!!!

CurlyhairedAssassin · 20/04/2014 10:02

I think there MUST be more of a back story here re past behaviour, with OP talking of "heinous" things mIL had done or said in the past. Which might make the annoyance about coming round the back way more understandable, as it sounds like you barely tolerate her.

Takver · 20/04/2014 10:16

"As an aside, is it normal to sit in an unlocked house? "

Yes, totally - really annoys me that our front door is a yale so you either have to have it banging or be locked out whenever you pop out. Our back door is always unlocked when we're in.

Having said that, my DPs often come round the back & just come in, also would expect friends to stick head round the door & shout.

Maybe it depends if you grow up in a city as opposed to the countryside?

To me it would be the rest of the relationship that is the problem (ie the awful ILs), not coming in the back door!

AreWeThereYeti · 20/04/2014 10:20

Of course YANBU - but you already knew that Wink

However, you should always lock your side gate whether you have a pushy MIL or not. Use one with combination lock if you don't want to use keys. You could also use a motion detector remote chime that would alert you when you are in the house that someone is using the side gate.

tallulah · 20/04/2014 10:20

My ILs used to just turn up without warning all the time. It was many many years before I found out that an awful lot of these visits had been arranged with DH who just hadn't bothered to mention it and listened to me rant on about how rude they were without saying a word

They had a key in case of emergencies and decided it was theirs just to use. DH worked nights and our living-room was at the back of the house so by the time you heard the key in the lock there was nowhere to go (thinking of the evening we were all in front of the TV in PJs when he let himself in). We took the key back after that incident.

Many years later when we first had a door with a multipoint lock instead of a yale my mum then surprised us by just walking in instead of knocking, so we had to keep the door locked all the time. People just seem to assume it's OK to walk in if the door isn't locked.

AreWeThereYeti · 20/04/2014 10:21

We use something like these for our garden gates. The ones we use are suitable for outside use.

to think it is incredibly rude to let yourself in the back of someone else's house
Pastamancer · 20/04/2014 10:27

Totally normal to have doors unlocked round here (Cornwall). Family would just walk in but friends generally ring the doorbell

SuffolkNWhat · 20/04/2014 10:45

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bedraggledmumoftwo · 20/04/2014 10:56

curly yes, there is more of a backstory but DH doesn't know all the details of vicious things she has said and done whereas he does know i use mumsnet so i cant go into it. Lets just say she is a slightly unhinged lady who i feel sorry for and irritated by in equal measure.

no, there was no gardening stuff out the front, we have a very big garden and very overgrown with bushes, and you cant see that there even is a gate tucked round behind the garage from the road/path/front door/ drive. They would actually have had to go out of their way to try the gate instead of the front door, so i now assume they do this every time. The gate has been permanently locked for a year now as we had a rear extension and the builders locked it, then just before the building work was finished they declared they were moving here and we kept locking it for that reason. We are therefore able to keep the back door open safely. Dh was walking the garden with a screaming baby when they arrived, so i thought maybe he had taken her round the front and seen them but he was actually at the far end of the garden at that point and had just forgotten to lock it earlier.

i know some of you don't understand my need for boundaries, but I am already suffering peacemakers remorse and feel i am giving as much as i can bear to, and much more than i want to, i just need them to show some respect for me and my privacy.

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Caitlin17 · 20/04/2014 11:13

YANBU. They sound awful. And I completely agree my in-laws are not my family.

NeedsAsockamnesty · 20/04/2014 12:03

People just seem to assume it's OK to walk in if the door isn't locked

Only rude people

scarletforya · 20/04/2014 12:19

I'd move.

Can't believe some people are trying to justify it! Anyone who does this is a SPACE INVADING weirdo. Just why would anyone want to force their company on someone who they know doesn't want it?

Oddballs.

FelineLou · 20/04/2014 12:37

I think you should tell her each time she does something you feel uncomfortable with. Ranting on here relieves your distress but she will only learn if there is some unpleasant consequence to overstepping your boundaries. The woman sounds horrible and you kindly want to include her but you have to be assertive and make sure she understands the rules.
If this upsets her - well - its her problem and you'll see less of her.
Express your dislike of her behaviour BEFORE you get too angry.
Oh and bolts on the doors and gate.

MooncupMadness · 20/04/2014 14:58

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