To think we have lost sight of what teh correct weight for a child is

[sassysally]

All these parents have gone, outraged to the mostly national press because they don't think their child has an ounce of fat on them, and the newspapers have published them,but to me are all clearly too heavy

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Agree about the inactivity. I was slimmer at the end of all my maternity leaves than a year later simply because I wasn't sitting at a desk all day.
I was talking to my MIL (mother of six, grandmother of many) about my eldest DD, who is slim as a reed despite eating like a horse. She said, it's because she's so active - not meaning the sport she does, just that she is never still. Even when engrossed in a book she is constantly shifting position.

Supermarket bread can have more than an onze of sugar in a loaf of bread, there is no need for this amount of sugar in a loaf of bread.

Home made bread or bread machine bread will have half a teaspoon possibly or no sugar at all.

Supermarket bread can have more than an onze of sugar in a loaf of bread, there is no need for this amount of sugar in a loaf of bread.

Home made bread or bread machine bread will have half a teaspoon possibly or no sugar at all.

Supermarket bread can have more than an onze of sugar in a loaf of bread, there is no need for this amount of sugar in a loaf of bread.

Home made bread or bread machine bread will have half a teaspoon possibly or no sugar at all.

Supermarket bread can have more than an onze of sugar in a loaf of bread, there is no need for this amount of sugar in a loaf of bread.

Home made bread or bread machine bread will have half a teaspoon possibly or no sugar at all.

people used to not have cars which was a major factor. Sugar is bad. Constant snacking, people producing foods the second a child says they are hungry (because a child can't possibly be hungry for half an hour before lunch! ). I'be seen a friend of mine give her ds a banana 10 minutes before lunch

a load of nonsense being spouted re kids 'finishing' meals. er Yes so dd will quite happily not eat something dull like a casserole but then she would be moaning she was hungry half an hour later. I'm sure people let kids waste good food in the past

I am very slim, and my children are chunkier about 75 centile. They are so much healthier than me they eat veg and fruit, dont like fizzy drinks, will eat literally any home cooked meal.

I was brought up on turkey dinosaurs and crispy pancakes, and have the worst diet known to man. I eat veg about every month or so if that! Im just lucky Ive got good genes.

I remember that thread ifpigs. It was a real eye opener for me and contributed to a long journey of sorting out my diet. I used to think I ate healthily but I was very, very wrong.

We eat Vogels bread which has no added sugar and lots of whole grains. I've tried a bread maker and never got the hang of it, though my parents love their one.

Toby I never waste food but if dd doesn't want to eat dinner I don't try and make her. Left overs are kept and if she is hungry later I just give her dinner back, I don't offer something different.

I do think some people grow in to their height. Honestly my babies/toddlers are the biggest fat asses ever but when they grow up they even out. Dd1 has put on 4 pounds in 2 years whereas when she was a baby was going off the charts so I refused to weigh her.

there is a difference hear between encouraging and forcing. It can't be right to let kids have pudding whether healthy or not if they haven't eaten their dinner (as surely they aren't hungry so how is that allowing them to manage their appetite?)

I think it's a difficult one tbh. Surely in one way by getting it out again later you are forcing her to eat it? (Although I don't think there is anything wrong with that approach myself!)

I probably manage it in the main by making sure that they are hungry at meal times.....

Wish I could link it hear but it was aeons ago.

Right! I now have the Hovis Best of Both wrapper in front of me...

Water, fortified wheat flour, wholemeal flour, wheatgerm, yeast, calcium sulphate, salt, fermented wheat flour, soya flour, wheat protein, vegetable fibre, emulsifier E472e, vegetable fat (rapeseed, palm), ascorbic acid.

The agent I've put in bold there is the only one I can think would do a sugar job?

Obviously there are other issues, notably that there are far too many ingredients, and also that one of them is the ecologically unsound palm oil.

I'm pretty sure the fermented wheat floor is about shelf-life rather than taste.

Could be wrong though. I'll have a google.

my Kingsmill 50/50 also has no added sugar either

Wheat Flour (33%), Wholemeal Wheat Flour (33%), Water, Yeast, Salt, Vinegar, Soya Flour, Vegetable Oil, Emulsifiers: E471, E472e; Preservative: Calcium Propionate (added to inhibit mould growth); Flour Treatment Agent: Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C).

(ingredients for the 50/50 bread)

Yes, I've had a quick look and the fermenting helps prevent mould.
It's used in lots of artisan type breads in place of artificial preservatives.

There we go then - two mainstream brands without sugar. Slightly off topic but interesting.

Just don't spread an inch of chocolate spread on top

I do like jam on mine and ds is a bit partial to nutella or peanut butter on his

Mmmm toast.

God it is hard to know qhat is best isn't it. A lot of different ideas on this thread. I'm in ireland and they don't track any of this at all. Had never heard of a child being overtall as a risk for later obesity but it does make sense and in fact looking back is exactly what happened to me. Hit puberty at about 11 and despite having been apparently a "tall" child am a v average 5'3" now.

Tbh, I would never have picked out the 2 children pictured as being overweight. They don't even look particularly "chunky" so I guess I def need educating.

Perhaps the issue is these letters are arriving with no context or public education so people know what they mean and why their child is not at a healthy weight?

I have a bread machine and make wholemeal bread, there is no reason yo put more than an onze of sugar in an entire loaf

I have a bread machine and there is no need to put any sugar at all in a loaf.

Doesn't sugar activate the yeast? But anyway, such a negligible amount of sugar is nothing compared to the very high gi of bread. It will rapidly become sugar.

Good god those poor children, the BMI is so arbitrary and a v unreliable indicator of health. Living with stigma and assumptions being made about you based on your body can be just as bad for you (actually fat in and of itself is certainly not inherently bad anyway).