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To ask my partner to make an effort with my family ?

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ilikebigbutts · 03/04/2014 10:42

Together 18yrs, usual ups and downs during that time and we have 2 young dcs together. Our upbringings were very different, I had/have a very large extended family and "think" we are close without living in one anothers pockets. Dh's mother died when he was a child and his father married the original evil stepmothet. Dh's family weren't all that close to begin with but this woman saw to it that aunts, uncles and cousins all lost contact with dh. He has an older sister but there relationship is pretty strained, she means well but can be hard work and dh loses patience with her.

A few weeks ago we had a family dinner for my Mum's birthda; it was a bigger deal than usual as she is rcovering from breast cancer. Dh had moaned about needing to go, said he didn't like the restaurant or the food. He went though but basically spent the whole night at the end of the table with the kids. He only spoke when spoken to and even then was monosyllabic. We had an almighty row the following evening as I felt he had completely shown me up and acted like an ignorant twat. He said that he knows something is basically broken inside him as he doesn't feel the same as I do about family, it would make no difference if everyone apart from the kids and I disappeared. I know I can't force him to care but is it too much to ask him to make a fucking effort? Can't he pretend for a couple of hours every 6 months if he actually loves me as much as he says? I said next time, if he really doesn't want to go then don't go but don't expect me to lie for him to save face, he can tell them himself.

To top it off we've all been invited out by my wee gran this Sunday ! So tge drama begins again. We don't normally have big family meals like this more than twice a year. Am I being unreasonable to want him to make an effort?

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ilikebigbutts · 03/04/2014 10:47

Apologies for all the typos and spelliing mistakes....fecking phone

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redskyatnight · 03/04/2014 11:00

Does he like your family? Are they friendly and welcoming to him? Does he find them unwelcoming on mass?

My DH behaves the way your does around my family, but that's because they have been diabolically rude to him in the past and he now goes with being civil but making no effort.

IT sounds to me that DH felt he had made the effort by going, and wasn't actually badly behaved, just a bit quiet- so not sure why you think he showed you up? Did your family make the effort to talk to him, or did they largely ignore him?

HildaOnAHarley · 03/04/2014 11:04

DH is like this (even with his own family sometimes) but my attitude is that if it's important to me then he should at least fake it while he's there.

His family are a pain in the bloody arse, and if I never saw any of them again it would be too soon, BUT I always do the polite (if not overly friendly) DIL thing and smile and chat.

I've stopped actively inviting DH to my family events, although obviously he's always welcome (as long as he socialises) and I don't make excuses anymore, if he comes great and if he doesn't my family know that he can be an anti-social bugger with a crap family as role models, and i can enjoy myself without wondering if he's ok.

Luckily my family have met his so they know exactly what they're like!

BettySwollocksandaCrustyRack · 03/04/2014 11:05

YANBU! My DH is exactly the same...he refers to my family as "your lot" and hates any social events. He has no reason to, they are lovely but he finds it all overwhelming as they are the total opposite to his family. we are outgoing and social and his family were very introvert and private.

I think he is a twat for behaving like this but I don't let it bother me anymore, I just go to these things with my DS and let him make his own mind about whether he wants to come or not - the only one missing out is him.

CoffeeTea103 · 03/04/2014 11:11

Well it seems that he had a very dysfunctional upbringing. How do you expect him to act 'normal' around family if he isn't used to this? You say he spent the evening around the kids, maybe because they are a familiar comfort for him.
Next time rather not bring him along, but I think yabu for expecting him to behave a certain way just because you do, knowing the background he has.

StrawberryCheese · 03/04/2014 11:12

Yanbu, he should make an effort, especially if your family are nothing other than warm and welcoming towards him. I come from a very small family and a broken home and often find big family gatherings quite overwhelming as I'm not used to them, but I make the effort because it is important to my DH and his family are all lovely. They can be a bit annoying after a while when alcohol is involved and I have escaped from house parties early on occasion.

Your DH is being rude though and if you have been together 18 years he should accepted the occasional family dinner/party by now.

AngelaDaviesHair · 03/04/2014 11:14

Does he behave like this with friends if he's not in the mood?

Some people think as it's 'family' you get a free pass to behave badly. You don't. He needn't be the life and soul but he should show at least a basic level of civility, like engaging in some conversation, showing a bit of goodwill.

sarahquilt · 03/04/2014 11:23

He should definitely make an effort. I'm very like him in that I'm not close to family and have very few family members anyway. It's been like that my whole life and like him, I don't always 'get' the importance of family to others. I always try and fake it though. He should put on a front once in a while.

LoonvanBoon · 03/04/2014 11:41

If it was early days in your relationship I'd think he was just a rude arse, & that you'd be better off without someone who couldn't make a bit of effort with your family.

But you've been together for 18 years & this particular occasion has obviously upset you. So was his behaviour worse than usual this time, or is it only just starting to bother you, or what? He must have been to family events a fair few times over 18 years, so I'm interested in what has changed.

Are you sure there's no back story / no reason for him to feel resentment towards any of your family members? Or is he feeling particularly down & really struggling to be sociable? Like Angela, I also think it's relevant how he behaves with friends.

Sharaluck · 03/04/2014 11:47

Yanbu

If it is only for a couple of hours every 6 months he should put in some effort. That is not asking too much.

ilikebigbutts · 03/04/2014 13:04

Thanks for the replies.

He can be like this with friends if he can't be arsed, he's someone who enjoys his own company and he has various hobbies and pasttimes that he pursues alone. I don't mind this as I know it makes him happy .

His job required him to meet and mix with complete strangers so I know that he can function in social situations when he has to. My family are all pretty normal folk. Brother is a bit of an arsehole but dh just leaves him to it. I'm tired of making excuses for his behaviour so people don't think he's a complete dick . He barely made eye contact with anyone made ti

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ilikebigbutts · 03/04/2014 13:07

Last time . I've said if he can't go and be civil then I'd rather he didn't go.

I hate this fucking phone !

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Meow75 · 03/04/2014 13:15

Why should he have to be there? Why should he have to be anywhere that he doesn't want to be in his own time? Why would you want him to be in a position where he is so blatantly uncomfortable?

If you go on your own, or with the kids, what's the worst that will happen? He'll stay home and have a nice time at home, doing his thing, and you'll have a nice time with your relatives.

I don't understand people's obsession with family gatherings like this, or rather getting upset by them if they don't go to plan. My dad and I have a lovely relationship, but sometimes we don't see each other for a year or more. We only live 200 miles away, but there are a whole bunch of things I'd rather do than spend 3 hours on the motorway to visit him and my stepmum, who I really like, btw. And he feels the same.

ilikebigbutts · 03/04/2014 13:19

You have a point Meow.I suppose it annoys me because I would make the effort for him.

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jimijack · 03/04/2014 13:24

Hmm' while I get what you are saying, I & I understand your annoyance I also see his pov.

I'm the same you see.

For that reason, I avoid my dh`s family. It's kinda accepted & how it is.
Best all round & no-one appears to be bothered.

jimijack · 03/04/2014 13:26

Ha, no-one is bothered because none of his family can stand me.

Meh, life is too short to be in that situation.

EvansOvalPiesYumYum · 03/04/2014 13:27

I agree with Meow - my o/h's family insist on huge family Christmas and birthday gatherings. I absolutely hate it, as do my children, so I don't understand why we should have to attend these occasions if we don't want to. Sister-in-law is incredibly bossy, I don't get on with her at all, my children cannot stand her, she really is a most horrible person. I often refuse the invitations, because I am an adult and can make such decisions.

My family live nearly 200 miles away - I visit, sometimes o/h comes if and when he wants to (he often does want to as he likes my Dad, but I don't make him). My Mum is quite a difficult person, so I understand if o/h doesn't want to come sometimes.

None of us should be made to do something we feel uncomfortable with.

sunshinemmum · 03/04/2014 13:28

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CambridgeBlue · 03/04/2014 13:31

I think it's just basic manners to be reasonably sociable to people and if it matters to you it should matter to him. His background is a reason not an excuse - he's an adult and making smalltalk for a couple of hours, especially if not doing so puts you in an awkward position - shouldn't be beyond him.

But my DH is pretty similar so maybe I'm biased!

EvansOvalPiesYumYum · 03/04/2014 13:35

Jimijack - I'm absolutely with you on that too, o/h's family can't stand me either (one nephew loves me, he's the same age as son and they hang out together). I'm the black sheep, so to speak. Because I tell them I don't want to do "stuff" that they tell me I have to. Meh! indeed

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Comeatmefam · 03/04/2014 13:51

I agree with others - don't force him, don't include him in family gatherings, go alone.

My dh doesn't sound anything like as rude awkward as yours but he also comes from a small, fractured, disinterested family whereas mine is huge and close so doesn't come to all gatherings and I don't mind.

However some events are a three line whip such as weddings and 'big' birthdays. And then I would expect him to play nice. I would be FUCKING FURIOUS if he behaved like yours did.

Jinty64 · 03/04/2014 14:24

he's an adult and making smalltalk for a couple of hours, especially if not doing so puts you in an awkward position - shouldn't be beyond him

I am an adult, a fifty year old adult, and I find making smalltalk for far less than a couple of hours excruciating. He is clearly a solitary person who enjoys his own company and finds large gatherings very difficult.

I had a professional job which requires me to meet and deal with complete strangers and I did it for 30 years because I had to because there were bills that needed to be paid. I don't do it anymore because I have the choice. Perhaps he would prefer not to work but to spend his time doing his own thing in his own company. Does he have the choice?

I have spent too many years socialising to please other people, accepting invitations because I thought I should, going out with people because I thought it would be rude not too. I'm not doing it anymore and I don't care if anyone thinks it's rude.

They are your family. I presume he is not asking you not to go. Go alone or with the children and let him do his own thing.

ilikebigbutts · 03/04/2014 14:44

Interesting responses. He doesn't understand why I should care what others think of him. I suppose I other couples out socialising at these weddings ire parties and wish it was us. But unless he's had a few beers he always looks uncomfortable.

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