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To tell Dog owners control you fecking dogs!

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Wishfulmakeupping · 17/03/2014 10:16

I'll get flamed I don't care. I'm fed up of people letting their dogs run wild just had another dog clamour all over me when I'm walking down the street with a 'sorry' from the owner again this happens to often. Last week a dog off its lead stuck its head near my child pram.
Its simple if you can't control your dog off its lead then keep it on its lead until you get to the park.
I think I'm going to go nuclear next time :(

OP posts:
squoosh · 19/03/2014 00:36

I was just thinking that it's been too long, at least three days, since a 'control your dogs' thread.

Proper order has been restored thankfully.

PatrickStarisabadbellend · 19/03/2014 00:38

The local kids can't us the local playing fields because it's a dogs toilet. I have witnessed people walking into the middle of a football match while walking there dogs!

BackOnlyBriefly · 19/03/2014 00:40

I think we need to start rushing up to dogs and knocking them down. Then we can piss over their owners and see if the tolerance they demand from us is reciprocated. I suspect not somehow.

I can't walk through a farmers cattle field in case I get trampled,

You can't see a difference between a field that the farmer owns and a street that you don't?

"Dogs are just as entitled to be on this planet as people"

Really?

Do you say the same about all animals? or just the ones with faces? I've noticed a shortage of people offering equal rights to rats and fleas. In fact dog owners generally kill fleas because they consider their own convenience and comfort more important than the life of the flea.

Are there any dog owners here who take their dog into their own garden to shit before taking them out for walk? I've asked this in the past and got blank looks because of course part of point of walking them is to make sure the shit is as far away from your own house as possible.

Says it all really doesn't it.

Tulip26 · 19/03/2014 00:45

I encourage mine to go in the yard before a walk so I can put the poo in my own bin. Nearest bin after that is ages away, saves me carrying it. So, yes.

I totally agree on the poo thing, it is infuriating having it all over the pavements or ruining naice parks. So few bin aro

Tulip26 · 19/03/2014 00:46

*So few bins around nowadays.

ormirian · 19/03/2014 06:14

Back- I don't take my dog on a walk just so he can empty his bowels. I do it because it's essential for his health and wellbeing (and mine). So I don't care where he shits, at home or out, I pick it up either way. In fact at home would be best as it wouldn't matter if I didn't pick it up immediately. However I don't have time to wait around while nature takes its course before we set out.

If you tried to push my dog over he'd either think it was a game or be frightened and run away. Either way I think your 'point' would be lost.

TheRealAmandaClarke · 19/03/2014 06:26

Agree. Irresponsible dog owners, and their bloody dogs are a pita.
I have been very lucky recently to meet some ll behaved dogs in the park. It's a joy to meet a dog that is well controlled and whose owners are kind and thoughtful.

LtEveDallas · 19/03/2014 06:33

Backonlybriefly, my point about the cows was made in direct comparison to What is wrong with letting people be able to go where they like free from the fear of having their faces bitten off by someone's fucking fur-baby? by someone who wants to get rid of dogs entirely.

The point being that people aren't able to go 'where they like' already and there will still be restrictions on their freedom even if dogs did disappear.

As for dog shit, my dog goes in the garden first thing, in the woods at lunchtime and in the dog park in the evening. I pick it up very time.

Sirzy · 19/03/2014 06:38

As a runner this is one of my biggest annoyances.

Most dog owners are great and we can pass with just a smile and a hello but some seem to believe the whole word loves their dog. Your dog may be lovely but I don't want it jumping up at me thank you very much.

ormirian · 19/03/2014 06:58

Sirzy - I'm a runner too and my dog helps me feel safe when I am running in lonely places or at night.

Sirzy · 19/03/2014 07:07

That's great. I would hope though you don't let your dog get in the way of other runners (or walkers or anyone else!)

ormirian · 19/03/2014 07:28

Yes. Of course.

GuineaPigGaiters · 19/03/2014 07:30

Yanbu. Last year on ones f our favourite beaches a woman walking a guide dog for the BLIND (in training, not an actual blind person) let her dog shit right next to the sandcastle my toddler was building. The dog shit was loose, a wave came in and you can guess the rest. Then The stupid cow (after I had gone and given her a talking to) went along scooping up the millions of tiny bits and throwing them INTHEFUCKINGSEA where my dd was swimming. Brainless, utterly brainless. I almost kicked her. (And I'm usually passive!)

GuineaPigGaiters · 19/03/2014 07:39

On our favourite beach...not ones four favourite beaches. Am not a royal. :)

GuineaPigGaiters · 19/03/2014 07:53

Just to add we love dogs usually and regularly dog sit friends very well trained dogs. They are beautiful to walk, always come to heel and never jump up. It's doable with every dog if the owners put the effort in.

The child/teen/dog debate are really all the same thing. We should all, as 'citizens' of communities be responsible for making sure that our behaviour, and that of those in our charges, does not negatively impact others. The parameters for that are fairly common-sensical really, no?

HercShipwright · 19/03/2014 08:23

Ormirian How nice for you that taking your dog running makes you feel safe. It stops other runners from running AT ALL (see my post earlier in the thread). I know several people who have stopped running outside much or completely because of dogs. Because we don't feel safe (and we aren't safe. I've been jumped at my dogs 3 times, injured every single time and the last time my glasses were broken).You cannot possibly be in control of your dog if you are running.

Goblinchild · 19/03/2014 08:24

'So what do I do about out of control kids running up to him and squealing?'

You use your nice big teacher voice and project 'Can You Stop Right There Please' at the child before they get to you and your dog.
Back it up by pointing at them, so they see you telling them to stop as well as hearing it. Then drop your voice and explain to either the child or the parent that it isn't safe behaviour and that they shouldn't approach a dog like that, even if they love dogs.

LtEveDallas · 19/03/2014 09:46

HercShipright,

It stops other runners from running AT ALL

No it doesn't. I work and live in a community of around 1000 soldiers. At any one time, morning, lunchtimes and evening, there are probably around 50 personnel running the streets, woods and fields within a 5 mile radius, not to mention squadded runs of up to 60 personnel at the same time. There are also maybe 100 dogs spread amongst the families living on the patch. In my locality I would expect to see far more runners (as fitness is a pre-requisit of military service) than I would in a 'normal' civilian area.

They all seem to manage fine.

Maybe your post should have said "It stops SOME runners from running AT SOME TIMES"

You cannot possibly be in control of your dog if you are running

My dog doesn't leave my side unless I tell her she can. She is well trained. For dogs that aren't you can buy harnesses that attach to the runners chest as well as the dogs - Cani-Cross is a big thing here and well supported by runners with dogs.

ormirian · 19/03/2014 09:49

Hiow does my dog running along next to me, minding his own business, stop other runners from running?

HercShipwright · 19/03/2014 09:53

LtEve YES it does. I didn't say ALL other runners. I have been prevented from running after having been attacked by a dog and I know other women who have had similar experiences. I'm sure soldiers aren't bothered by being attacked by dogs. I was. It also cost me money (new pair of glasses). The 'some' in your suggested edit is superfluous.

Goblinchild · 19/03/2014 09:58

LtEve, I grew up on military bases and garrisons.
If your children or your animals seriously misbehaved, the soldier was disciplined for not maintaining order in his family.
So if your dog bit a runner, the consequences were more severe for both the dog and the soldier than in civilian circumstances. Plus the guardhouse used to shoot troublesome strays.
This was in the 60s and 70s though, so I'm prepared to be way out of date.

LtEveDallas · 19/03/2014 10:00

I'm sure soldiers aren't bothered by being attacked by dogs

Don't be daft, of course we are. We are normal human beings, we don't have superpowers

You are not ALL people. So SOME people (ie you) have problems with dogs when running (Was that 3 times in 3 runs and you've never run since? Or 3 times in 10 years running every day? Was it 3 dogs out of 3 dogs that you have ever seen, or 3 badly trained dogs out of 10 dogs you have ever seen?). Not ALL people do.

They aren't a problem ALL the time, only SOME of the time.

Look, I understand that you are pissed off with the badly trained dogs and you have every right to be, but that doesn't make ALL dogs a menace. Just those 3 badly trained dogs.

LtEveDallas · 19/03/2014 10:04

Hi Goblin,

These days the soldier cannot be disciplined for the actions of his family (or pets!). The worst that could happen is that the soldier could lose his licence to occupy a military house, but that would have to be for ASBO type reasons.

A dog biting a runner is a civilian offence and would be dealt with by the civilian police and courts.

Oh and the guardroom isn't armed any more!

ormirian · 19/03/2014 10:18

"Look, I understand that you are pissed off with the badly trained dogs and you have every right to be, but that doesn't make ALL dogs a menace. Just those 3 badly trained dogs"

That sums it all up for me. Badly-trained aggressive dogs need to be muzzled and/or leashed at all times. Dog owners who don't take care of and control their dogs need to be prevented from keeping dogs maybe.

That isn't the issue for anyone on here is it?

Problem for me seems to be that some people see a dog off the lead and think 'dog is out of control' when that simply isn't neccessarily the case. If my dog once attacked a human being he would be put to sleep - I'd weep buckets but I'd still do it - I don't want to have to be terrified of his actions every time I took him out of the house.

Goblinchild · 19/03/2014 10:37

No rifles in the guardhouse?
What do they do, shout loudly at a baddie? Grin