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Or should I not lose a full day's pay for striking?

74 replies

baxterstockman · 11/03/2014 18:30

We went on strike for a day in November.

I have just had it brought to my attention that I lost a full day's pay for striking, despite the fact I work part time (6 hours per day as opposed to the 7h 30 a full time staff member would work)

I emailed the head of finance who said that 'unfortunately management decided that all staff would lose a full day's pay regardless of their working pattern'.

AIBU to think this is completely unfair - a full day for me is 6 hours!

Whilst it is only a small amount of money that I have lost out on:

a) It is the principle
b) We have to strike for a full day and a half in a few weeks so I will presumably lose out more than other colleagues again.

OP posts:
WooWooOwl · 11/03/2014 18:32

YANBU, you should only lose pay equivalent to the amount of hours you would have been working.

But you do not have to strike.

holidaysarenice · 11/03/2014 18:32

Highly unfair! Raise it with the union that you striked with!!

Nicknacky · 11/03/2014 18:32

Isn't it fairly common that you don't get paid for striking?

DameFanny · 11/03/2014 18:33

Sounds as if they're penalising you for your working pattern - get your union rep to take it up for you, as if there are people working pt due to a protected characteristic such as disability your employer silk be truly in the shit.

Scholes34 · 11/03/2014 18:33

Perhaps this means you can take 7hrs 30m the next time you take a day off?

pussycatdoll · 11/03/2014 18:33

God it must be a pain for payroll to sort out
Or you in HE as they keep striking ?

DameFanny · 11/03/2014 18:34

Oh, and don't work the 1'5 hours you haven't been paid for.

LindyHemming · 11/03/2014 18:34

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baxterstockman · 11/03/2014 18:35

I will raise it with the Union - but to be honest they have a fair bit on their plate at the minute and not sure it will be a priority.

Just DP and I are in the same job so stand to lose a fair amount of money for the next strike. I know I don't have to strike but I feel very strongly about what the government is doing to our profession.

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maddy68 · 11/03/2014 18:35

You should only get docked for YOUR Normal working day

ivykaty44 · 11/03/2014 18:35

nickynack - but it is not common to charge someone for striking which is what the OP's company are doing

OP go and see your union and sort it with them, also make sure you pay for your pension for the day otherwise you will have a break in service

LindyHemming · 11/03/2014 18:35

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Nicknacky · 11/03/2014 18:36

Ah right, I see!

baxterstockman · 11/03/2014 18:38

pussycatdoll
I can see that it would be a pain in the arse for Payroll to sort out but that isn't really my fault!
Am a Probation Officer Sad

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MangoBiscuit · 11/03/2014 18:41

I'd email finance back and explain that you've not been deducted an entire day, but 125% of a day, or a day and a quarter. As it stands, I'm pretty certain that they are breaching your contract of employment with regards to renumeration.

baxterstockman · 11/03/2014 18:43

Thanks MangoBiscuit. I can't see how they can take more money off me than I would have earned for one day. I will pursue it.

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monkeysox · 11/03/2014 18:44

Yanbu cheeky buggers

Nanny0gg · 11/03/2014 18:47

So they've 'fined' you for striking?

Illegal I would have thought.

Pippintea · 11/03/2014 18:50

They are wrong. You lose the amount you would earn that day and no more. Last time I went on strike I made sure that finance knew that I was contracted to work only 1/3rd of a full day on strike day. My wage was docked accordingly.

Monmouth · 11/03/2014 18:53

If you weren't available for work that day because you were on strike then you shouldn't be paid and for you that's 6hours. How difficult is that?

You can bet they'd get it right if they owed you a 'days' pay.

Vatta · 11/03/2014 18:55

They're in the wrong. Part-timers are more likely to be women, so by discriminating against part-timers (which is what they're doing) they're potentially engaging in unlawful sexual discrimination.

Definitely go back to them, point out that they have effectively fined you 1.5 hours for striking, and that you think this is an unlawful deduction from your wages.

ClaraDeLaNoche · 11/03/2014 18:57

Yup it's unlawful deduction of wages. And potentially indirect discrimination if you can establish this disproportionately negatively affects female staff. That's with my legal head on. However... I know there's principles involved but I would tread lightly!

baxterstockman · 11/03/2014 18:59

Well I was feeling a bit miffed about this earlier, but now I have a few other people's opinions am pretty angry.

I will speak to Finance again in the morning and get the other part timers I know on side - perhaps with some pressure they will do what's right.

God knows how many more times we will be expected to strike in the next few months whilst the government pushes through their appalling reforms. I will need every penny I can get!

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ll31 · 11/03/2014 19:04

Yanbu, they are illegally deducting from your pay.

TheDayOfMyDoctor · 11/03/2014 19:07

In addition to what mango biscuit says, I'd also argue it was an illegal deduction of earnings. Do you have anything set out in writing about what happens in a strike, either in your contract or elsewhere? One of these conditions have to apply for a deduction to be made:

required or authorised by legislation (for example, income tax or national insurance deductions)
authorised by the worker's contract - provided the worker has been given a written copy of the relevant terms or a written explanation of them before it is made
consented to by the worker in writing before it is made.

(From ACAS).

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