To think Prince William and his wife are lacking appreciation of their position

[fideline]

and good fortune?

He just seems a bit of an over-privileged posh boy?

I know everyone says he has lovely manners, but we can expect a bit more than that, surely?

They have just hired a 'forrin' nanny a) after making an enormous PR fuss about not having one b) at a time of high UK unemployment.

The list of god-parents for their baby was a bit multi-barrelled and No foreign royals, as is traditional, but Not the slightest whiff of any demographic diversity either.

There seem to be a LOT of luxury holidays going on with these two.

The uni course he is doing has been especially designed for him and seems designed to prepare him for inheriting the enormous (private) Duchy of Cornwall. Not exactly public-spirited?

In the much-hyped first post-baby interview, he was keen to promote a charity saving Kenyan Rhinos. Nothing intrinsically wrong with that, but the line between animals he shoots for fun and animals he wants to save is unclear and anyhow a charity for under-privileged (UK?) children would have been the nice, publicity-shrewd thing to do, maybe?

For a couple with a great deal of expensive PR expertise at their disposal they seem to be slightly missing the mark a bit too often.

fund for the royal family ....

antiabz - says who .... oh yeag the republican campaign group. Where are the numbers to back it up?

Bare in mind that around 13 million people are republicans, the campaign group has a big pool to get members from. This does not mean republicanism is growing. As I said getting more vocal and becoming more public. I have no problem admitting that, like I have no problem saying around 20% of the country are republicans.

FreudiansSlipper- I am not saying you are jealous , it is the way many phrase it. Mentioning wealth normaly shows that, but not all the time. When you see most go on about there money and the words they use... jealousy is obv.

take advantage of their positions time and time again- how?

and you are a subject as well as a citizen. They are words that mean very little.

"Their" not "there".....

Adam - "do you really not understand the French revolutions - LOL?".

My PhD is on the 1790s, as it happens! I've never thought about it before, but maybe that is why I have such "weird" republican views .

Do calm down, Adam. Or wipe up your royalist mouth-froth with a Charles and Diana Wedding tea-towel or something. Or did everyone throw them away when that marriage turned out to be a Jeremy Kyle-type clusterfuck, different only in the social position and privilege of the participants?

crazyspaniel Mon 10-Mar-14 15:04:35

Adam - "do you really not understand the French revolutions - LOL?".

My PhD is on the 1790s, as it happens! I've never thought about it before, but maybe that is why I have such "weird" republican. Whooop whoop, then you would know that it has nothing to do with the French king doing nothing. Kinda the opposite.

No total different, as we are all different, no one is same. Life would be boring if we where.

I seem to remember a tv programme years back assessed the royal family with all the myths that surrounded it adn concluded atht they didn't enhance tourism income etc

I loathe it as an instituation and a concept. I do noth think that anyone in the world is better than me becasue of what they were born/who their parents are and they have the right to rule. The royal family believe that they are better /are born to rule.
On an individual level-I don't know them! William at least did do a job that was useful in objective terms and he hasn't really had much choice in what he is. Kate has chosen her role and was fully informed so I have no sympathy for her.
I can't believe the number of people who have sympathy for charles- he thinks that he has a right to interfere in the government of this country when he has no mandate or qualification to do so

"Do you not know how, the transfer of money works?"

You have managed to completely misunderstand what I was saying there, I'm afraid.

"Show traces of jealousy because of the wording. When you mention wealth and the phrasing of it, it crosses the line from disapproval to jealously. It is all in the wording. "

No Adam it's really not.

You clearly want to undermine and dismiss every non-monarchist point made on this very long thread.

Attempting to do that by insisting on nuances that aren't there and making fallacious leaps is just distracting from whatever point it is that you are trying to make.

Why don't you calm down and try and express your reason for joining us?

You just sound rather silly and rabid in the moment.

Adam I can see that you have literacy struggles and I don't want to be dismissive of your opinions because of that.

However, your random punctuation, frequent synonymic errors and disregard for paragraphs are making your posts hard to read.

It also rather weakens your approach of trying to infer hidden meanings from our prose.

I can see this is an issue that is extremely close to your heart.

Please; slow down try shorter responses and try to explain your position.

Why for example do you not think we, as UK taxpayers, are justified in holding an opinion on palace PR efforts?

Fideline I also tried very hard to reconcile that with a possibly imaginary Phd.

Adam has a PhD? I missed that.

Oh bugger no. Adam was quoting crazy spaniel. Not sure how I missed that.
Still agree adam is hard to follow and read.

You missed it because he quotes without appropriate indicative punctuation and is hard to follow and read

I just noticed I said synonymic when I meant homophonic. Let's hope he doesn't notice that - he'll probably cite it as further proof of something bizarre.

I don't think I've ever read such purely illogical posts.

Not coming back adam?

You clearly went to the trouble of NCing/ registering for the express purpose of discussing this issue. Have you changed your mind?

They have just hired a 'forrin' nanny

Yes, dreadful! Only English women - nanny or no - know how to bring up a child, of course!

saving Kenyan Rhinos. Nothing intrinsically wrong with that, but the line between animals he shoots for fun

Please supply photographic evidence (link). I haven't seen that unlike the Spanish bastard king!

This all may have been brought up already on the thread can't be fucked to read 28 pages of it

"This all may have been brought up already on the thread can't be fucked to read 28 pages of it"

Yes it has. Please feel free to go ahead and talk nonsense regardless.

"Yes, dreadful! Only English women - nanny or no - know how to bring up a child, of course! hmm"

Wasn't remotely the point being made but feel free to go ahead and etc....

Best you lot can do? Insult spelling and grammar. Actually their were not many mistakes in the last few comments.

No I was at uni. And currently traveling home. Who said I had a phd? I never did.

Did I state anywhere your where not allowed an opinion? .... No.

As for the whole jealously think... Well yes it is to do with the wording. I was discussing this idea today in a seminar and two of my Lecturers said the same thing. The wording of it is everything. And general speaking if you mention wealth then there is a jealous element in most arguments.

Oh and the Royals do not rule have not done for a few centuries know.

adamb123 - so, you were merely expressing the opinions of other people. Ah, right.

Can I please suggest that you deal with your literacy issues before you submit your dissertation. It will really help your lecturers to be able to read what you write, because, frankly, I had to skip most of your posts because they were unintelligible.

Why is it that Monarchists can only use the same two arguments for the Royal Family over and over again? IE we Republicans are jealous (err, no, I'm perfectly happy and settled with my life and very financially secure, thank you very much) and they are the reason so many people come to this country and good for the tourist industry....I have no figures, but I'm pretty damn sure that most people go on holiday to Cornwall (where I am from and where my parents run a B&B) not because of the Royal family, but because it has some pretty bloody awesome beaches, scenery and amazing places to visit that aren't anything to do with Palaces or Royals.

She does landscape photography. Give her a break.

" And general speaking if you mention wealth then there is a jealous element in most arguments. "

Adam that is a laughable assertion (but your sudden adoption of paragraphs is making you easier to read)

yes when discussing how terrible I feel it is that so few hold so much wealth while people are starving it is because I am jealous not at all because I know there is no need for anyone is this world not to have clean water and enough food

taking advantage of their position, their choice of how they live their lives. will and kate of on another holiday, we shall pay for security and goodness knows what else and yes lets not forget neither are working will needs a year off for all those public engagements which are very sporadic