To start a new thread about bollards on the Isle of Wight

[Mrsdavidcaruso]

OK new thread will post on this after 5pm when bollards are up

Loons. I know what you mean about wishing this was over OP but I'm really enjoying it. Sorry.

I'm really sorry that they won't just piss off, OP. I hope you're not getting too stressed by all this.

Perhaps they need it spelling out to them (in little words they might be able to understand) that the land never belonged to the landlord, he rented it to them illegally and they have no parking rights!

You should definitely electrify your new fence, sharpen the golden spears and put some razor wire up for good measure.

What a load of entitled, stupid fuckwits!

As an afterthought, maybe machine guns for the penguins as well

I would ask the letting agent to send them all a letter clearly explaining how the land lies, so to speak. To spell out that there would be no legal dispute to be had, as the land was being used wrongfully in the first place, and that the reduction in rent is in respect of this. And also to put a piece in that anyone who approaches you OP on any way herein will have their tenancy revoked as it will now be classed as harrassmemt. In fact, any tenant who mentions or complains or utters a word about parking here from here forward will have their tenancy revoked as the matter is DONE. Can you ask the letting agent for a letter to that effect?!

I'm beginging to wonder if OP needs to send a letter to all parties (LL,LA and tennants)that the OP legally owns the piece of land and it will be used for their family as they see fit and that any further harrassement of OP and her family will taken seriously to full extent of the law.

I also think that you should go away to your family for a few days as your DH would like. You need to get away from this stress.

I'm beginging to wonder if OP needs to send a letter to all parties (LL,LA and tennants)that the OP legally owns the piece of land and it will be used for their family as they see fit and that any further harrassement of OP and her family will taken seriously to full extent of the law. I mean for a solicitor not from the OP.

If I was you MrsCaruso, I would not engage with these lunatics anymore. As far as you are concerned the matter (and the bollards) is closed. They should refer any issues to the LA or LL.

If they try to be verbally or otherwise abusive, call the police. Don't try to deal with it yourselves.

Relax and enjoy your pregnancy

I agree. The letting agent needs to spell it out in words of one syllable that the landlord never owned the lard or had the right to allocate it to the tenants.

However, since they let it, the tenants quite reasonably could ask them what the hell they were playing at not ensuring everything was ok.

but they cant force you to let them park on land you bought from someone who had agreed nothing at all with them or their landlord!

they are furious about the parking and appear to have lost all ability to think logically.

Actually, a solicitors letter is a good idea, but that should be the final act - then disengage. You really can do no more.

These tenants are coming across as knuckle draggers, OP. I agree they need a letter in basic language sending out to them advising them how things happened with a warning that they must stop harassing you, including a description of harassment.

Sorry to hear this is still going on.

Idiot bin woman, who we presume is the one talking about legal measures, needs to speak to her landlord. Not you. Not your DH. Not even the LA really as whilst they're seemingly being helpful, it's also not their fault that the LL told them he had land to rent out that he didn't in fact own.

Go to the police and get every incident with psycho bin lady logged Mrs D. You need a paper trail.

Delurking to send you some
MrsDC!

Can't believe they are still hassling you!

I think you should take yourself off for a few days, and get your railings put up soon OP.

There is a reason you are being told to get a police paper trail started up.

What mateysmum said

I can see why the tenants are angry, and I have some sympathy with them - they presumably took the flats on the basis that there was convenient parking, and that is no longer the case. It has probably not been made entirely clear to them that the LL never had any right to allow them to park on the land in question and they may think that OP has somehow pulled a fast one taking the rights away from him.

If they go to a solicitor about legal action, any competent solicitor will tell them that it is the landlord they need to go after, not OP.

I sympathise too (although not with the nasty barking people). I'd be pretty pissed off if I had rented a flat with parking only to be told down the line that actually we never had the right to park there and now it's being withdrawn. However, it's the LL I'd be pissed off with, not the past or new owners of the land.

They need to concentrate on the LL if they feel the need and hopefully give you peace and quiet.

Surely they have been told?

But the LL isn't there, so they're taking it out on Mrsdc's family because they are there. Lazy as well as obtuse

Told that the LL never owned the land & had no right to rent it to them, I mean

I think Mrsdc should ask LA to see copies of correspondence sent to tenants about the parking spaces & if it wasn't spelled out clearly in plain English then another letter should be sent making it absolutely clear

MrsD, you don't need to do anything at all. As soon as these fuckwits try to do anything legal a solicitor will tell them where to go. So what if they engage one and misrepresent their side? The solicitor will soon discover the truth, just like your solicitor did. Wth any luck it'll cost them a couple of hundred quid to find out that actually they were cheated by the LL.

If they get abusive call police. Otherwise, just enjoy planning and doing your new garden, and enjoy your pg. You have no need to do anything else.

Of course, there's nothing to stop you chatting with Nice Tenant (if there is one) and saying that you would never have bought the land if BL hadn't behaved so badly in the first place, that she made you look into it and so...... The next tenants' meeting would be fun to be a fly on the wall to.

OP

The tenants have approached the letting agent and the letting agent has let them know that they have no case. Hopefully this will be the end if it but it is good they are going to the letting agent who seems sensible and not coming to you.

Let the LA handle it.

Blimey, this is beginning to sound stressful. I agree with other posters: disengage and relax. If any tenants hassle you in the street, then call the police. It goes without saying that they have NO legal case against you whatsoever. In fact, the reverse is true: you could sue them for trespass which is a strict liability offence so it matters not that they didn't know they were trespassing and the minimum you should get for damages will be the cost of the bollards which were only necessary because of their continued trespassing. I wouldn't actually recommend legal action (time consuming, expensive and stressful) but your DH could point out to them that it is an option and that if they mount a legal challenge, or continue to give you grief in any form whatsoever, then you will make a counterclaim.

I would leave all this to your DH. You should concentrate on happy thoughts and planning the lovely big garden you want to have for when your youngsters are running around playing

I hope it makes them feel special that they are harrassing the pregnant OP and stressing her out all in the name of a temper tantrum.

The problem is that OP is in arguing distance, which is why they are getting it in the neck. If a faceless company had bought the land they would be kicking off at the letting agent as they wouldn't have any idea who the new owners were.

Do these tenants have anywhere else to park? Are there spaces on the road that are a convenient distance away? I suppose from their point of view they also have to notify their insurance company that their cars are now parked in the road all night which will increase their premium.

I agree with notifying the local police that you are being harassed (I wonder if they'd say this was civil though).