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To think using such a skinny model is irresponsible?

157 replies

Awkwardsis · 12/02/2014 07:32

yes Next, I'm looking at you
I came across is when I was browsing for some new jeans. Surely noone is actually that thin? And I've been anorexic! Whatever do shops still insist on using such skinny models? And no, this isn't 'thin shaming', I know we all come in different shapes and sizes. Not to add, those jeans are gopping.

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desertmum · 12/02/2014 16:41

I haven't read all the replies, but am a bit gobsmacked about some of the comments re thinner women. I wonder what sort of reaction there would be if this thread was to talk about fatties, and fat people not being the 'norm' and clothes on them looking horrible ?

I am slim and get soooooo fed up with people feeling they can tell me I need to put on weight, I am too thin, I must be anorexic, I mustn't eat enough blah blah blah, but if I were to tell someone they should lose weight and must eat far too much it would be considered rude. We all come in all shapes and sizes, yes the model is slim but so are a lot of people, and yes maybe they should show a range of model sizes to give an idea of what the clothes look like across the board. But enough with taking a pot at the skinnies. It's not about size it's about healthy living.

Joules68 · 12/02/2014 21:03

'Life in Britain' is changing though....weight issues are the biggest drain on the NHS. I want better for my family

Honeysweet · 12/02/2014 21:09

But having photoshoppping, ultra thin models and not large mannequins havent made things better. They have made things worse.

I think that we may have to agree to differ.

LessMissAbs · 12/02/2014 21:24

I don't see how people can't judge what the clothes will look like on themselves by (a) comparing the standard model sized "clotheshorse" with themselves and (b) trying them on in the store if necessary.

I don't look anything like the model shape (I'm short, muscular albeit a size 8/10 in jeans) and I don't have any difficulty in working this out. I know for instance the jeans in the advert won't suit me, because I only suit low rise bootleg jeans worn with a chunky heel and nothing else.

I don't see this as some sort of conspiracy against small muscly short women - its simply that not all shapes look good in jeans. Its nothing to do with being "real" or not - size 14/16 models would not help me out because their size or shape would be nothing like mine so I prefer the standard sized models because I can compare quite well against a standard shape. Which is probably why they are used by the fashion industry, along with more clothes looking good on them.

Alisvolatpropiis · 12/02/2014 21:34

Lack of education re food has made things worse, not thin models.

StopSquabbling · 12/02/2014 21:37

Tbh, those jeans would not look good on anyone other than a slender long legged type.

She looks fine to me.

scottishmummy · 12/02/2014 21:40

Sexy and high waist jean.now that's an oxymoron

TalkinPeace · 12/02/2014 21:48

I am a slim size 8 (profile pics as proof)
a good friend models in catalogues and fashion pages
that girl is too thin to model jeans : you need a bit of leg muscle to make them hang right

she's 5'10 and size 6-8 IMHO

Goldendandelion · 12/02/2014 22:00

She looks fine to me.
I have those jeans and love them. They fit me perfectly and look great, much better than they look in those pictures.

howrudeforme · 12/02/2014 22:09

"I am a slim size 8 (profile pics as proof)
a good friend models in catalogues and fashion pages
that girl is too thin to model jeans : you need a bit of leg muscle to make them hang right

she's 5'10 and size 6-8 IMHO"

Oh jeez says it all.

What is the right f'cking size. Really I was a slim size 8 and didn't wear my jeans like that - I'm now a bigger size 10 -12 and flabby almost 50 year old - don't wear my jeans like that.

No woman represents my body shape like me.

TalkinPeace · 12/02/2014 22:15

howrudeforme
I have no idea, or comment on, the "right size" but that model ain't it.
Scrawny does not look good and is unhealthy.
That model is scrawny
(then again she might not be as apparently those pictures are heavily photoshopped)

Honeysweet · 12/02/2014 22:23

There has been loads of education about food. Particularly in schools. I would have thought that most people are fed about about 5 a day etc .

Sallystyle · 12/02/2014 22:28

For fucks sake.

Scrawny does not look good and is unhealthy?

Heard it all now.

BitOutOfPractice · 12/02/2014 22:33

I agree that if a shot is photoshopped it should say so. That woukd be very illuminating

And oh god it's LessMisAbs. Great!

fatlazymummy · 12/02/2014 22:44

That photoshop disaster link is hilarious. It just goes to show how ridiculous the fashion industry is.
Newsflash - photoshopping slim lovely models so that they look deformed won't make us want to buy your products.
Personally I have no problem with tall very slim models, even though I will never be that size or shape myself.As long as they are naturally that size, don't have to eat tissues and laxatives in order to get work and are generally healthy. I think we need to learn to think for ourselves, and to teach our children to do the same.

Alisvolatpropiis · 12/02/2014 22:51

Talkin

*that model is scrawny"

There speaks a person who has lost sight of what healthy looks like.

Joules68 · 12/02/2014 22:53

fat who looks 'deformed'?

BitOutOfPractice · 12/02/2014 23:13

Hold on, you can't have it both ways Joules. You say that skinny models are just naturally slim people and we should accept them for what they are, naturally skinny. And that they shouldn't be dissed for being underweight and they don't pressurise people (esp young girls) into being skinny

Yet we shouldn't have larger nodels (ie an average size 14) because that would promote an unhealthy image for young people by influencing them to want to look like them

Which is it?

And those of you who are slim who say you've had lots of negative comments (which is obviously not acceptable) which larger people never get clearly don't live where I do!!

Metebelis3 · 12/02/2014 23:26

bitoutoforactice I don't know what sort of comments fat people get. They certainly don't get any comments from me. I get plenty of comments from them though - from the hilarious ones about being careful not to blow away in the wind to the plain nasty ones about looking scrawny or being skin and bone or, every time I have a cold, being told it's because I'm 'too thin'. I'm not too thin. I'm just built on a small scale. My sister - who is 4'11" - is even smaller in scale than me. And she isn't too thin either. We are the right sizes for our frames. Increasingly, people aren't. And that's where the problem lies - being too large for your frame has been normalized. That model isn't remotely skinny, and she is a perfectly normal size albeit ridiculously tall. And in heels.

BitOutOfPractice · 12/02/2014 23:29

Mete you only have to open the paper or walk doen the street or read MN or listen to radio phone ins to see/hear what kind of comments fat people get. I'm not fat btw but I have been in the past.

Did you not see the cartoon in a national paper portraying Eric Pickles yesterday I hate the man but not because of his size

Joules68 · 12/02/2014 23:36

*BitOutOfPractice Wed 12-Feb-14 23:13:54
Hold on, you can't have it both ways Joules. You say that skinny models are just naturally slim people and we should accept them for what they are, naturally skinny. And that they shouldn't be dissed for being underweight and they don't pressurise people (esp young girls) into being skinny

Yet we shouldn't have larger (ie an average size 14) because that would promote an unhealthy image for young people by influencing them to want to look like them

Which is it?*

Please show me where I said that?

fatlazymummy · 12/02/2014 23:37

joules some of the models on the website that was linked on the previous page. It's called photoshop disasters. Not the model in the Next advert.

fatlazymummy · 12/02/2014 23:39

Here is the link again www.psdisasters.com/category/baroque-anatomy

BitOutOfPractice · 12/02/2014 23:47

"Why not?

Because it's not healthy

And I don't want my kids growing up thinking it's a good thing to be the size of a plus size mannequin thanks"

There!

A size 14 may not be any less healthy than a 4. You insist that you know this mdel is healthy. But anyone "plus size" is not. How so? The fashion industry considers 14 to be "plus size" btw

goodasitgets · 13/02/2014 00:28

It's like banging your head against a brick wall. Repeatedly.
You cannot tell how healthy someone is from a photo, or their clothes size. A size 8 is not necessarily healthier than a size 16 or vice versa
I don't like the jeans, whether that's the photoshop or the jeans I don't know
But this ridiculous idea that size 6 women don't eat and size 16 people eat nothing but McDonald's is stupid, as is the more/less healthy thing