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To be annoyed with what happened to DC at school today!

257 replies

SpagBolgs · 10/02/2014 21:40

DC have packed lunch and usually their lunch consist of Water a cathedral city snack, sandwiches and some sort of fruit usually apple slices. I packed DD lunch which was water, cheese snack bites, apple slices and sandwiches. When DD went to lunch the dinner ladies look in her box and told her she couldn't have her sandwich as it was unhealthy it was a BLT with cheese as they deemed it to be unhealthy it was confiscated!!! DD came home in tears and was pretty upset. AIBU to complain? Angry DD has allergies so the school meals do not suit her that why she has packed lunch.

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Pipbin · 11/02/2014 16:40

One point to note about cooked school dinners is that they are provided by a third party and not the school. As a rule the school has little or no say in the contents or quality of school dinners.
I know of one school that was interviewing for a new head cook. The head wanted one person but the catering company employed another, less well qualified, person because they were cheaper. Nothing the school could do about it.

Anyway, come back op and tell us what happened. If you didn't get far then I suggest going to your local paper.

Mojang · 11/02/2014 16:53

That's not quite true Pibin, our kitchen staff are employed directly by the schooling the head does absolutely have final say about the menu. It has to be produced for 1.80 inc overheads though so quality always an issue

Problem is there are so may mixed messages re what healthy eating is. e.g previous poster saying blt is ok on Slimming World therefore must be healthy. SW woukdxabsolutely not be a healthy diet for a ks1 child

RufusTheReindeer · 11/02/2014 17:05

mojang and pig in our school the food is provided by a catering company hired by the county council. The menu is the same in all the local schools. Kitchen staff are also employed by the county council. Lunchtime supervisors are employed by the school

It sounds like all sorts of schools do it differently

HollyMiamiFLA · 11/02/2014 17:13

And I think if you are an academy, you can ignore all this stuff.

www.theguardian.com/education/2012/may/14/academies-ignore-school-food-guidelines

RabbitRabbit78 · 11/02/2014 17:16

Unfortunately we now have > 1 generation of people with little to no understanding of balanced diet, especially when it comes to kids. I see people hand wringing on here about feeing kids foods that aren't "low fat" etc etc because it has been drummed into us for so long that fat=bad that we can't accept that our bodies (particularly those of children)

I suspect the OP's situation and those like it has arisen because either the individual lunchtime assistant or whoever has been doing the training (if they have had any - unlikely) doesn't understand "healthy" eating for kids. We are creating yet another generation with food problems and eating dislrders.

RabbitRabbit78 · 11/02/2014 17:17

our bodies (particularly those of children) need fat

Clumsy fingers.

SlimJiminy · 11/02/2014 17:57

Totally agree Rabbit - kids are being given the wrong kind of information because they're being cared for by generations who don't seem to have a fecking clue what a balanced diet is.

I know a LOT of people who are completely and utterly clueless about nutrition. One worryingly thin/gaunt male friend argues that a Pot Noodle is healthy as it "has no fat in it" despite me pointing out that it's full of shite. He genuinely thinks it's nutritionally better to eat a Pot Noodle for lunch every day than something like a sandwich.

Another girl I knew at uni - who is morbidly obese - did some slimming group thing where you have a certain number of points per day. She used to save all her points up for the weekend. One Saturday she 'spent' her saved up points on nothing but JD + coke and - I kid you not - 9 Cadbury's Creme Eggs. In. One. Day. But it was fine because she was sticking to her points...

Op that BLT sandwich was part of a perfectly respectable balanced lunch. If the school had a problem they should've discussed it with you, not ridiculed your child and taken away her food. It's appalling behaviour. If the head isn't open to a discussion, go above them.

Anniegoestotown · 11/02/2014 18:14

I would probably be in the canteen at lunch time physically removing the puddings from the school dinner menu and anything else that was deemed too fatty, sugary etc and telling overweight dinnerlady that to call your dd greedy meant by her standards she herself was gluttonous.

Pipbin · 11/02/2014 18:17

I think part of the problem as well is that many adult women's ideas of a healthy diet comes from trying to lose weight, which is a very different diet to that required by a 6 year old.

Mojang I think it is a county by county thing.

slimjim there is a load of fat in a pot noodle if he reads the nutritional information.

RufusTheReindeer · 11/02/2014 18:19

Didn't think the dinner lady in OP was overweight

Not that I understand why the fuck that matters!

Dinner lady may have been there for years, new school brings in stupid rule that she may not agree with but has to enforce otherwise she loses her job, then posters think that her weight has a bearing on her very low paid job

JohnnyBarthes · 11/02/2014 18:44

Angela that was my point (although I probably wasn't sarcastic enough Wink )

paxtecum · 11/02/2014 18:58

Angela: My DGC sang Baa Baa White Sheep six years ago at nursery.

They never sang Baa Baa Black Sheep.

mistermakersgloopyglue · 11/02/2014 19:28

Oh yes it's 2014 not 2013, my mistake earlier.

Still doesn't clear away the not so faint smell of bullshit on this thread.

I do agree that many people have no idea about what good nutrition looks like, and that some schools may be a bit over zealous when it comes to lunch box rules.

However, I just don't believe some of the stories in this thread. They just would not happen in schools in this country without other serious issues of gross misconduct being present.

waterlego6064 · 11/02/2014 20:12

I think part of the problem as well is that many adult women's ideas of a healthy diet comes from trying to lose weight, which is a very different diet to that required by a 6 year old.

Totally agree with this Pip. Spot on.

HollyMiamiFLA · 11/02/2014 20:18

Diet does not mean lose weight,
But when you introduce the idea of "diet" to children, that's what they think of.

It takes a lot for them to realise it's just about what you eat. And what children need is different to adults.

CatherineMumsnet · 11/02/2014 21:03

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deakymom · 11/02/2014 22:41

how nasty is there any update op?

i helped sort out the healthy eating policy at my daughters primary school they stopped children from bringing fizzy drinks in (because of explosions) and children who regularly bought in unhealthy meals were given several warnings before they had their lunch removed and a school lunch provided the parents were told if they did it again they would be charged for the lunch they were aware that it was not legally enforceable and that they would have to pay for it but usually the threat was sufficient the guidelines were a sandwich small packet of crisps/mini cheddars prefered fruit cheese or a small chocolate bar such as a penguin or two finger kit-kat and we achieved healthy school status (gold) with those lunchbox guidelines so i really dont understand where all this fuss has come from

SpagBolgs · 12/02/2014 19:30

Update- I have been into the school, I made a formal complaint and they were rather rude to me. I talked to the head chef,the dinner lady and the deputy head and they told me we are very sorry about this incident but you must follow the rules. Angry There are no bloody rules saying BLT have been banned the rules state No nuts or food that contains nuts, no fizzy or energy drinks., no junk or fast food and no Nutella. They said that they were sorry and I should go and see DD GP for advice and give her a balanced diet or school dinners; It so funny there suggesting school dinners which serve rubbish processed pizza and chips and greasy sausage rolls and give the children squash and DD has allergies when she was on school dinners she complain they had nothing for her so she always had to eat a tiny banana from school!

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AgaPanthers · 12/02/2014 19:31

DAILY MAIL!!!!

kotinka · 12/02/2014 19:34

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ToffeeOwnsTheSausage · 12/02/2014 19:43

It must be that schools make a lot of money on school dinners so they bully children until the parents have no clue what is allowed so switch to dinners Angry.

TheEmpress · 12/02/2014 19:44

Ofsted complaint?

HollyMiamiFLA · 12/02/2014 19:48

Show them the NHS thing which has a BLT in it.
Ask them to explain a balanced diet and how a BLT can be part of one.
Ask them to explain what is wrong with a BLT.

pigletmania · 12/02/2014 19:49

I would go to the LEA and ofstead, totally unacceptable. I would have asked them what their menu was and pulled it apart in front of them!

diabolo · 12/02/2014 19:50

I'm shocked that some people on this thread have accused the OP of lying, (though the same poster once accused me of lying about running being banned in DS's old school's playground).

It was. I took him out the same year and sent him to a school where he could run to his hearts content.

OP - your latest update from the school must be making you so angry. What do you do next?

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