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AIBU?

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or does being a 'family man' make it even more unacceptable to go around breaking people's jaws?

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newnewnewname · 10/02/2014 15:36

www.lep.co.uk/news/local/yob-spared-jail-for-breaking-man-s-jaw-1-6429381

Shaking with anger right now Angry the article doesn't tell the full story, the comments fill in some gaps.

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Mia4 · 10/02/2014 22:33

Oh OP I'm sorry for you and your DH. What about taking civil action? Sometimes when the criminal court fails the civil court can bring justice. There's probably a few lawyers on MN who could tell you realistically the likelihood of it happening.

It's bad enough when someone hurts someone you love and get away with it but at least if he had truly been remorseful and apologetic it would be less of a slap in the face. People like that don't change, it would be karmic if the next person he punch gave him back worse than he gave out.

newnewnewname · 10/02/2014 23:09

He just wants to let it go now, he's had enough.

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Mia4 · 10/02/2014 23:19

Maybe you should speak to someone about trying to move past it if that's what he wants, it might help?

MistressDeeCee · 11/02/2014 01:52

Sorry to hear what happened OP, Id be livid too if it were my DH. At least your DH is ok, and you can vent on here! The lowlife thug's been convicted and hopefully he'll step out of line again sometime and be slung behind bars as he deserves

LittleBabyPigsus · 11/02/2014 04:47

Honeysweet I really doubt government bases its decisions on building prisons on one MN comment Hmm And if you'd, I don't know, actually bothered to read my comment you'd see that I entirely support prison sentences for violent crime. Of course the attacker should have gone to prison, my point was that more prisons don't equal fewer crimes and that the best punishment for non-violent criminals isn't prison. Prison is not the best punishment for all criminals.

LittleBabyPigsus · 11/02/2014 04:49

Also OP I am really sorry for what's happened.

LiberalLibertine · 11/02/2014 05:31

Honeysweet I didn't understand your comment either.

newnewnewname · 11/02/2014 08:06

I feel like I want to vent to him though that's what's winding me up now. I've obviously commented on the news article and I've written a blogpost. I know he must've seen the article comment by now at the very least.

My friends want to start writing to MPs and such but dh can't go through any more of this, he just wants to put it all in a box and put it away.
I just need to find away to brush off the anger now. Perhaps I'll go to the gym and work off all the cakes I ate while dh was poorly!! Ha! Or maybe I'll just treat myself to a couple of these tonight Wine

It's comforting to see how many people agree with me, shows I'm not out of line. Thank you all.

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Honeysweet · 11/02/2014 08:15

Sorry LittleBaby. I didnt write my post very well.
I was responding to the first sentence of the post before. About people being there for violent/sexual crime only. For instance, you missed off fraud theft and corruption. So I perhaps mistakenly thought that only certain crimes mattered to you?

Wishfulmakeupping · 11/02/2014 08:21

What an absolute scumbag he didn't get what he deserved this time but he will do something else soon and then he will get whats coming and he probably won't be so brave when he's actually behind bars.
Hope you dh is ok both physically and emotionally.

Honeysweet · 11/02/2014 08:28

More prisons dont equal fewer crimes.

I dont think that many people would agree with you there.

LiberalLibertine · 11/02/2014 08:33

Something like 80% of crime are down to drug addictions. Send them to enforced rehab with counselling, for at least a year, leave with an implant. That would be money better spent than locking up serial shop lifters, prostitutes etc.

Op I'm so sorry this happened to your family, but I can understand your dh wanting to put it behind him now, maybe you could talk to victim support if you find you can't let it go? Good luck.

LittleBabyPigsus · 11/02/2014 08:47

Honeysweet no, I mentioned shoplifting and fraud as examples of crimes that should not get custodial sentences - obviously they should be punished, but prison should be for criminals who are a danger to the public. And when people are put in prison for minor, non-violent/non-sexual crime, prison makes them reoffend MORE. So no, more prisons do not equal fewer crimes, they equal more crimes. Prison is not appropriate for all criminals. And it's not that 'only certain crimes matter' to me, all crimes should be punished - but punished appropriately, that's all. I certainly think violent crime like OP's DP's attacker committed should be punished by prison time.

clarksonforPM · 11/02/2014 09:21

What sort of punishment would you suggest for say, someone who has fraudulently conned an old lady out of her life savings ? - Just by having the 'gift of the gab' so to speak, so no violence involved ?

newnewnewname · 11/02/2014 15:32

Now according to a new comment I'm apparently I'm ignorant, pathetic and bitter. I want to scream.

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Pendeen · 11/02/2014 15:36

His mouth was bleeding profusely and when he attended hospital X-rays showed his jaw was fractured in two places. He lost three teeth and had to have surgery to insert a metal plate into his face

Dear God, after causing such horrific injuries I would have expected any sane judge to have jailed the animal who did this for many, many years.

newnewnewname · 11/02/2014 15:48

And yet it's ME that someone has just called pathetic and bitter for being unhappy with it. I think the most recent comment might be from his mother. I suppose you can't blame her for supporting her child.

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songlark · 11/02/2014 16:08

If I'd had a child who'd done something like this I would be devastated and so ashamed. I really would have to think about where I'd gone wrong to have brought up such a son. These mothers who defend their precious sons, even though they cause such pain and upheaval as has happened to your family disgust me. I wonder how "pathetic and bitter" they'd feel if someone did to one of their family what happened to yours. It's bad enough what you all suffered but at least if he'd gone to prison you would have felt that he was having to pay. I hope you can all move on and put it all behind you, he'll get paid back one day.

newnewnewname · 11/02/2014 16:11

songlark it's comments like 'air your dirty laundry' and calling me love, that are really the final show of disrespect. dh, dd and I have no dirty laundry to be aired in all this. It's a different kind of human that behaves this way, or thinks that this kind of behaviour is ok.

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newnewnewname · 11/02/2014 16:14

""""There are always 2 sides to every story love, this is just bitter pettiness the judge has decided and your ingnorant pathetic comments are not going to change that so accept and move on or go through appropriate channels and do not air your dirty laundry on here""""

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FarmerSueTickle · 11/02/2014 16:19

'clarkson' is a shit-stirrer. He's best ignored.

goodasitgets · 11/02/2014 16:23

OP I had my cheekbone and eye socket fractured in the same town. If you haven't already, look into criminal injuries compensation
My attacker walked with a caution

newnewnewname · 11/02/2014 16:26

He has done. I told him that whatever he gets should be spent on something stupid that he really wants or wants to do. The culprit has to pay him 1600 also.

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goodasitgets · 11/02/2014 16:27

Good. It doesn't make up for it but it covered my lost wages and paid for a trip away. It put me off going out for a long time

newnewnewname · 11/02/2014 16:29

goodas that's awful Sad
Preston has changed so much. We moved away a few months ago, but I still go back every other week or so. There's a tension in the air at nighttime, like it could all kick off at any moment. Dh had only been in town 30 mins when it happened. I don't know about other towns, but when we are out in Manchester, Liverpool....basically anywhere else, there isn't the same feeling, not to me anyway. It makes me sad, because I love my home town.

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